# What is next for EveOnline **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 1, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431 "2021-07-01T12:52:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/41 "2021-07-01T19:33:51Z")
As a logi pilot you defend your pals and repair them on grid. ---
**Author:** ![May\_Q\_Cry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/may_q_cry/32/370362_2.png) [@May\_Q\_Cry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/May_Q_Cry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/42 "2021-07-01T19:36:51Z")
So in other words absolutely no benefit for the person piloting the Orca. They get to log in, boost other people, and get absolutely nothing out of it. Sounds like a great job. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/43 "2021-07-01T19:41:29Z")
Greed is one of the 7 sins. But if you want, you can still “steal” all the ore in the cans on grid and decide who gets paid what. And you can still bring mining drones if you want but a command ship is not a solo-pwn-mobile but a co-op gameplay assist boat. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/44 "2021-07-01T19:44:24Z")
> [@Giddy\_McFee](#): > > Not even logging into game at the mo either but the intention is for that not to be permanent, I am in the same boat except I wont tell you how long I’ve been waiting. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/45 "2021-07-01T19:44:25Z")
> [@May\_Q\_Cry](#): > > So in other words absolutely no benefit for the person piloting the Orca. > > They get to log in, boost other people, and get absolutely nothing out of it. Sounds like a great job. you can charge some tip in minerals to boost you know? i used to charge x units of ice long time ago ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/46 "2021-07-01T19:46:08Z")
And to get an idea how this could look, I proposed some changes to the Orca in the assembly hall for the CSM to have a look. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/47 "2021-07-01T19:46:40Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Making AFK cloaking impossible and it’s _guaranteed_ to see a big drop in players logged in. In all fairness to the ranting I’ve done lately this change in mechanics and its impact cant really be over stated. ---
**Author:** ![May\_Q\_Cry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/may_q_cry/32/370362_2.png) [@May\_Q\_Cry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/May_Q_Cry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/48 "2021-07-01T19:47:18Z")
Unless you are earning as much or more as you could by simply mining yourself in an exhumer, then there is still no benefit to it. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/49 "2021-07-01T19:48:43Z")
On a slightly different note, what “benefit” do you propose any command ship pilot in a fleet should have and how should they be “paid”?? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/50 "2021-07-01T19:49:32Z")
> [@May\_Q\_Cry](#): > > Unless you are earning as much or more as you could by simply mining yourself in an exhumer, then there is still no benefit to it. well you have more tank and more cargo … plus drone mining is more chill you get some tips here and there for doing a job , people don’t mind to give you the first cargo to stay in field more time and mine more ---
**Author:** ![May\_Q\_Cry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/may_q_cry/32/370362_2.png) [@May\_Q\_Cry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/May_Q_Cry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/51 "2021-07-01T19:49:55Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > And you can still bring mining drones if you want I mean its pretty much certain that Ratatti will make mining drones essentially un-useable on Orcas and other command ships either by taking all the bonuses away making them functionally worthless and/or removing or nerfing the drone bandwidth. ---
**Author:** ![May\_Q\_Cry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/may_q_cry/32/370362_2.png) [@May\_Q\_Cry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/May_Q_Cry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/52 "2021-07-01T19:50:19Z")
This assumes you will still be able to use mining drones at all. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/53 "2021-07-01T19:51:03Z")
Well in changing the Orca, we wanted to make barges and exhumers viable again. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/54 "2021-07-01T19:51:03Z")
> [@May\_Q\_Cry](#): > > This assumes you will still be able to use mining drones at all. not pretending to be a expert , i did it long time ago in ice fields because i found mining ice relaxing at the time ---
**Author:** ![May\_Q\_Cry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/may_q_cry/32/370362_2.png) [@May\_Q\_Cry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/May_Q_Cry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/55 "2021-07-01T19:52:40Z")
Then everyone can use barges and exhumers to mine with and the Orcas will sit docked. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/56 "2021-07-01T19:56:59Z")
In my proposal, I suggested the Orca gains some mobility to help with on-grid logi. Maybe if barges and exhumers can gain some mobility and even a tad powergrid to be able to fit afterburners, mining would become ever so slightly more active and engaging. Without stepping on my True Sansha ships toes, they could even get a 100% to 150% afterburner speed bump to make barges and exhumers more mobile while not being un-catchable. We wouldn’t want to upset the ganking fellas too much, won’t we? ---
**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/57 "2021-07-01T20:19:37Z")
The first few days were difficult i’ll admit, but the longer I leave it the less I want to log back in. Joke is it isnt really much too do with scarcity, that is just CCP digging their own grave, i just find the game incredibly boring currently ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/58 "2021-07-01T21:00:53Z")
> [@May\_Q\_Cry](#): > > They get to log in, boost other people, and get absolutely nothing out of it. Sounds like a great job. While “I” didn’t mine, I covered gates/wh’s. It is a necessary evil that while not exactly exciting, it’s still fun bs’ing with friends, made us isk, and if somebody did pop in, then it got exciting for everyone! We weren’t very organized back then! 😆 While most of us are at least a little worried, this drop happens every yr. After being stuck staying away from all my friends, I’m out and about as much as I can now. We all know we see any good numbers till fall. I still like my conspiracy theory that CCP is driving down the numbers on purpose taking a load off the servers and at least somewhat mitigating tdi. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/59 "2021-07-01T21:13:10Z")
> [@May\_Q\_Cry](#): > > Why would anyone ever be an Orca pilot when there is absolutely no benefit in it for themselves? > > Just to boost other people? The majority of Orca pilots I have seen are miltiboxing with their own private fleet of various mining ships. So they are simply boosting themselves with a large cargo hold so mining ships can stay put. Some go as far to have another account with a large hauler come pick up loads so the Orca don’t have to move either. This is all hisec but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it all over. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431/60 "2021-07-02T03:36:28Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > One player with 5 AFK cloaky camper characters logged in 24/7 counts as 60 regular players who play 2 hours a day on a single character for ‘players logged in right now’ numbers. That’s just daft thinking… with numbers plucked from nowhere… The amount of characters, regardless of how long they’re logged into the game, doesn’t change the overall amount of current players online. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-next-for-eveonline/318431.md?page=4)