# What is the game missing most **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 11, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176 "2020-01-11T21:53:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/310 "2020-01-21T16:21:57Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > And yes…in that definition chain i am totally and absolutely right… You should go play chance games, you have foresight. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/311 "2020-01-21T16:53:31Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Yes it is…because the reason to say this is the same… > > ‘No change i don’t like please’… Sorry, this is you being an idiot again. Anyone with a basic grasp of the English language can comprehend the simple concept that “I disagree with this particular change” and “I disagree with all changes” are not the same thing. > Not THE game will die…just THEIR game(that of the no changers) Yes, we know you’re an idiot who doesn’t understand that the EVE economy only exists because of PvP, and that a PvE-focused version of EVE would probably be dead within a month as the economy crashes and PvE rewards become worthless. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/312 "2020-01-21T16:58:44Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Here we have the true misinterpretation… How is it a misrepresentation? My opinion, which is shared by others, is that your proposals are A: dumb and B: attack everything Eve has stood for for the best part of 2 decades. Everything you say on the forums indicates that you refuse to even contemplate whether or not your ideas are dumb; despite being shown the how and why of their dumbness repeatedly. > Not THE game will die…just THEIR game(that of the no changers) No, your idea of what Eve should be is not inline with what Eve is and was meant to be. Your proposed changes would quite simply make Eve no longer be Eve, ergo their implementation would replace the game that many of us love with a pale imitation that calls itself Eve but isn’t it; thus Eve as we know it would indeed be dead. > And yes…in that definition chain i am totally and absolutely right… You keep telling yourself that, and we’ll keep telling you that you’re a clueless moron. > It’s the same… No. ---
**Author:** ![Jiris\_Yusef](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jiris_yusef/32/180998_2.png) [@Jiris\_Yusef](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jiris_Yusef)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/313 "2020-01-21T17:06:01Z")
Generally, and the way the guy went about it saying it, it was the same thing Theres a difference between “your idea is stupid so are you.” And “nah man I dont think that would work in eve, here’s why” Theres something called tact I dont think many of you know about. ---
**Author:** ![Jiris\_Yusef](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jiris_yusef/32/180998_2.png) [@Jiris\_Yusef](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jiris_Yusef)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/314 "2020-01-21T17:10:53Z")
I’d love to have that discussion, unfortunately you and many other dont actually want to have that conversation. You just want to shut down any idea about changing the game and insult the person who had the idea. Learn how to have an arguement, a debate, and I’ll gladly have one. However I dont believe you’re capable of such. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/315 "2020-01-21T17:12:07Z")
> [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > Theres something called tact I dont think many of you know about. Tact does not apply when we’re talking to well known trolls and idiots like him. We have learned from painful experience that he is incapable of making any kind of constructive argument or even grasping how basic concepts of EVE’s design work. All he can do is whine about how his farming isn’t safe enough and how PvP needs to be nerfed even more. So all that is left is amusing ourselves by insulting him. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/316 "2020-01-21T17:14:24Z")
> [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > You just want to shut down any idea about changing the game and insult the person who had the idea. Nope. Again, “your idea is stupid and you should be ashamed of yourself” and “all change is unacceptable” are not the same thing. Feel free to post a good idea with a compelling argument behind it and people will listen. Post incel trash about how EVE needs the ability to “carry some hot girl mechanic around” and you will get entirely deserved hate until you STFU and go back to whatever trash anime sex game you came from. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/317 "2020-01-21T17:17:29Z")
> [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > Theres something called tact I dont think many of you know about. There is a finite resource called patience, when it’s empty you start running on tact instead. Tact was good the first 20 times he repeating the same “I am right and you are all wrong”. The 100 following times he got a nice cup of “go fck yourself” and that was deserved. What he is doing is repeating the same stupidity again and again, ad nauseum. This is just a troll, and should be considered as such. FYI he’s been on the forum for two years with various accounts, every time trolling and complaining that the devs don’t understand HIS gameplay is the only thing making eve worth playing. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/318 "2020-01-21T17:18:22Z")
> [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > I’d love to have that discussion, unfortunately you and many other dont actually want to have that conversation. What a nice convenient cop out for you, isn’t it? Get mad at someone for not having a conversation, but when called out, immediately back down and come up with excuses. If at any point you would like to talk about how this is “better”, let me know. Otherwise, you can sit down and shut up until you grow a spine. Public forums means hearing things that aren’t rainbows and cotton candy all the time, kid. > [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > Learn how to have an arguement, a debate, and I’ll gladly have one. However I dont believe you’re capable of such. Says the kid who backed down after being asked the question “how is this better?”. Hope making these potshots comments and running away makes you feel better. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/319 "2020-01-21T17:25:49Z")
> [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > Theres a difference between “your idea is stupid so are you.” And “nah man I dont think that would work in eve, here’s why” We know. The discussion of ideas is a 2 way street, unfortunatley “nah man I don’t think that would work in eve, here’s why” often gets ignored by the person with the idea, 12 months later they’re still spouting the same crap and ignoring those who attempt the latter reasonable approach to disagreeing. Thus we’re left with “your idea is stupid so are you.” ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/320 "2020-01-21T22:08:05Z")
> [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > I’d love to have that discussion, Yeah hang on… Your first post on the forums. > [@Jiris\_Yusef](#): > > You sound like the douchebag bitter vets that this game is famous for. Never wanting the game to change even when for the better. > > You should take a break from Eve man, realize theres life outside. And this is what you were replying to: > [@What is the game missing most](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/2): > > First off, gross. No thank you to that “hot girl mechanic” comment. Second, no. Walking in Stations was (fairly) recently removed because it was almost never used by an extremely tiny minority of the players and all it did was cause problems each patch. EVE players don’t want it, and CCP’s got the data to show it. I hope it stays missing because it’d be a crap ton of work to create useless assets that almost no one will use. Dev time can be put to something that actually matters and has an i… I don’t see someone who wants to have ‘that discussion’ i see someone making personal attacks because someone explained exactly why a feature was dropped by devs. Or was it his aversion to lowering the tone of the game that was so douchebag-like? I mean, the irony in telling him to get out more in defence of ‘hot-girl mechanics’… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/321 "2020-01-21T23:55:19Z")
Please explain how having short and long term goals affects in any way how often you play? ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/322 "2020-01-22T05:18:10Z")
I remember PK was a evil person who who destroyed other people and their stuff. Ah those were the days. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/323 "2020-01-22T06:13:42Z")
This is true, but it would have been a massive waste. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/324 "2020-01-22T11:10:45Z")
What this game is missing most is less toxic people in it’s forum. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/325 "2020-01-22T11:13:00Z")
Maybe then you should play the game more then and not spend so much time in the forums…no? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-game-missing-most/211176/326 "2020-04-21T11:13:05Z")
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