# What is the general "health" of this game? Subs? New players, etc? (Part II - 2018) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 25, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649 "2018-02-25T09:47:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cu\_lo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cu_lo/32/56204_2.png) [@Cu\_lo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cu_lo)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/21 "2018-02-26T21:02:54Z")
your talking out your ass, you cant know who is botting. ive never heard anything that supports botting in all my time in PH in any channel ---
**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/22 "2018-02-26T22:33:32Z")
> [@Cu\_lo](#): > > your talking out your ass, you cant know who is botting. ive never heard anything that supports botting in all my time in PH in any channel He is right about multi-boxing. I can think of a few cases where I just sat and listened to players on TS3 and Discord, and could hear them talking about having 3 screens up with 3 different instances of Eve running, and they would move between them running each one. It isnt botting, and it isnt illegal, it is if anything more challenging. But hey if that is the way they want to play, and they want to pay for that many accounts, more power to them. ---
**Author:** ![Cu\_lo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cu_lo/32/56204_2.png) [@Cu\_lo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cu_lo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/23 "2018-02-27T03:16:08Z")
nothin wrong with multi boxing, just saying he has no idea what he is talking about, making it sound like everyone in null is botting ---
**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/24 "2018-02-27T15:40:44Z")
Didnt say there was anything wrong with it. I did say if anything it is harder. And he did make it sound like there is some grand scheme of bots going around. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/25 "2018-02-27T16:03:51Z")
The biggest problem with bot’s is that they drive all incomes down into the dust, this results in a lot more grinding needed to sustain pvp, which is not good for the longevity of the game. Lucky CCP introduced moon mining in high sec which is lowering the cost of normal mineral’s, and maybe one day the moon goo will drop too and ships will be a lot more affordable to fly, but today is not that day. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/26 "2018-02-27T16:37:43Z")
A decline of less than 10% for an MMO as old as EVE is actually really good. ---
**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/27 "2018-02-27T17:02:10Z")
i think you missed the sarcasm. But it wasn’t too long ago that free to play and real $ market were sacred cows that could never be touched - and look where we are now. ---
**Author:** ![Garresh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garresh/32/411555_2.png) [@Garresh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garresh)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/28 "2018-02-28T17:09:53Z")
He didn’t say botting. He said Multi boxing. And I can attest I see more and more people(myself included) branching out into multiple accounts. It’s a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/29 "2018-02-28T17:29:32Z")
First time I see in some language people calling cakes items that you put into urinals and pee on. What a heresy. 🙊 ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/30 "2018-02-28T17:37:50Z")
> [@Garresh](#): > > He didn’t say botting. He said Multi boxing. And I can attest I see more and more people(myself included) branching out into multiple accounts. It’s a thing. Agreed lots started the game with 1 and now have 12 char’s, many of them PI alts. ---
**Author:** ![Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shallanna_yassavi/32/449714_2.png) [@Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shallanna_Yassavi)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/31 "2018-03-02T00:30:23Z")
Cyanide and Happiness is an… _interesting_ comic. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-general-health-of-this-game-subs-new-players-etc-part-ii-2018/59649/32 "2018-05-31T00:30:27Z")
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