# What is the Purpose of Citadels **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 5, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826 "2019-12-05T23:53:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/21 "2019-12-06T19:27:16Z")
Most are used to play Space House. ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/22 "2019-12-06T20:21:28Z")
In my experience the primary use of the raitaru is to explode 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/23 "2019-12-07T10:20:28Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > I am genuinely curious about why people build these things, Lots of people want their own sand castle. That is basicly it. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/24 "2019-12-07T14:38:23Z")
> [@Mina\_Sebiestar](#): > > they aren’t moon bound(most of them). none of them are moon bound, a refinery is only moon bound if you wish to moon mine. Also i find citadels overly easy, very safe and no where near as modular as the old POS system. i could do everything in 1 spot and have defence, the timers were only the fuel that you put into them. with citadels i need 2-3 stations to be able to perform a variety of jobs, 1 person can take one out after you wait a week of invul timers between the 2 timers and if you manage to beat the 15 min insta heal it has. they clutter space. A pos on average people kept 2 days of fuel for the invul, it had a crap load of HP, was easier to kill but at the same time people didnt like it due to the huge amount of HP so they needed a fleet. i could do everything in 1 location, they didnt clutter space. additional originally you needed standings and a permit for fuel to put a POS in high sec, they took the standings part away and every moon in high sec easily had a POS on it, and when they switched to Citadels, there empire systems with 20-30 citadels there with npc stations, most of them offline because you dont have to have it online to dock at your castle. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/25 "2019-12-07T14:47:19Z")
> [@Agondray](#): > > they clutter space. That’s because you are a moron and add them to the overview. CCP should remove them from overview /space visibility (system window and overlay) unless you have docking access. Just like POS. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/26 "2019-12-07T14:59:05Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > CCP should remove them from overview /space visibility Hiding issues is not a solution. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/27 "2019-12-07T15:00:24Z")
It is when the issue is the visibility. Since people are too stupid to untick the structures from their overview, and it makes them feel bad, CCP should make the structures visible as the POCOs were ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/28 "2019-12-07T15:10:55Z")
Issue is quantity not visibility. With better visibility, simply more people is aware of issue. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/29 "2019-12-07T15:12:11Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > Issue is quantity not visibility. No when you say “it clutters” then the issue is visibility. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/30 "2019-12-07T15:19:56Z")
Putting something in fixed location and fixed amount vs ability to place anywhere, unlimited number of structures is something more than only visibility. But whatever you say I wont argue with you more. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/31 "2019-12-07T15:23:38Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > unlimited number of structures is something more than only visibility. No, your issue is that you see them. Because otherwise it would not affect your gameplay. And you would just not care. I removed them from my overview, and I don’t care about them. The fact that you complain is just because, you added them to your overview. Now I understand that having a potentially dangerous entity on the grid needs to make you see it. Which was the case for POCOs, they don’t appear unless they are on grid. Therefore, I agree with you and CCP should make them only appear when you are on grid with them, and remove them from the “fullsystem” visibility ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/32 "2019-12-07T15:30:21Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > The fact that you complain is just because, you added them to your overview. I guess you know me better than me but overview shows you are wrong. I don’t complain. I share my opinion about broken game feature. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/33 "2019-12-07T15:31:59Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > That’s because you are a moron All posters who just post insults should be banned. Right Andersen? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/34 "2019-12-07T15:32:00Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > I don’t complain. I share my opinion about broken game feature. Complain : > express dissatisfaction or annoyance about something. So, yes, you complain. > [@Sordina1](#): > > I guess you know me better than me but overview shows you are wrong. Then how can you say it clutters the game when you can’t see them ? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-purpose-of-citadels/204826/35 "2020-03-06T15:32:01Z")
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