# What is the radius of "the point of no return" and is it spinning?

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**Created:** [September 5, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033 "2020-09-05T17:55:21Z")\
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i have this weird thing that i was thinking about and for that i need to know the details

are there any?

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/2 "2020-09-05T18:00:36Z")

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well … ill have to … you give me no choice

A blood black nothingness began to spin.  
Began to spin.  
Let’s move on to system. System.  
Feel that in your body. The system.  
What does it feel like to be part of the system. System.  
Is there anything in your body that wants to resist the system? System.  
Do you get pleasure out of being a part of the system? System.  
Have they created you to be a part of the system? System.  
Is there security in being a part of the system? System.  
Is there a sound that comes with the system? System.  
We’re going to go on. Cells.  
They were all put together at a time. Cells.  
Millions and billions of them. Cells.  
Were you ever arrested? Cells.  
Did you spend much time in the cell? Cells.  
Have you ever been in an institution? Cells.  
Do they keep you in a cell? Cells.  
When you’re not performing your duties do they keep you in a little box? Cells.  
Interlinked.  
What’s it like to hold the hand of someone you love? Interlinked.  
Do they teach you how to feel finger to finger? Interlinked.  
Do you long for having your heart interlinked? Interlinked.  
Do you dream about being interlinked?  
Have they left a place for you where you can dream? Interlinked.  
What’s it like to hold your child in your arms? Interlinked.  
What’s it like to play with your dog? Interlinked.  
Do you feel that there’s a part of you that’s missing? Interlinked.  
Do you like to connect to things? Interlinked.  
What happens when that linkage is broken? Interlinked.  
Have they let you feel heartbreak? Interlinked.  
Did you buy a present for the person you love? Within cells interlinked.  
Why don’t you say that three times? Within cells interlinked. Within cells interlinked. Within cells interlinked.  
Where do you go when you go within? Within.  
Has anyone ever locked you out of a room? Within.  
Within.  
Where do you go to when you go within? Within.  
Where is the place in the world you feel the safest? Within.  
Do you have a heart? Within.  
Stem.  
Did you pick asparagus stems?  
What comes from something else? Stem.  
Have you been to the source of a river? Stem.  
When’s the first time you gave a flower to a girl? Stem.  
What did she look like? Stem.  
Is it a slang word for people’s legs? Stem.  
Have you planted things in the ground? Stem.  
Have you ever been in a legal battle? Stem.  
Within one stem.  
Dreadfully.  
Is that an old fashioned word? Dreadfully.  
Did you ever want to live in the nineteenth century? Dreadfully.  
What’s it like to be filled with dread? Dreadfully.  
Do you think you could find out all the answers to all the questions? Dreadfully.  
Distinct.  
How good are your eyes? Distinct.  
Do you have a particular personality? Distinct.  
What separates somebody from somebody else? Distinct.  
Who do you admire most in the world? Distinct.  
What was your most shameful moment? Distinct.  
Dreadfully distinct.  
Dark.  
Were you afraid of the dark when you were little? Dark.  
What’s it like to hide under a bed? Dark.  
Did they keep you in a drawer when they were building you? Dark?  
Was it dark in there? Dark.  
Do you have dark thoughts? Dark?  
Did they program you to have dark thoughts? Dark?  
Do you think it’s some kind of corruption these dark thoughts? Dark.  
Maybe it’s a spot of rust or something? Dark.  
Who’s the darkest person you know? Dark.  
What is it like when someone gives you the silent treatment. Dark.  
Who did you get your darkness from? Dark.  
Against the dark.  
What kind of power do you have against the dark. Against the dark.  
Do you think there is such a thing as evil? Against the dark.  
Do you think you can protect people against the dark. Against the dark.  
Why are these things happening? Against the dark.  
Do you prefer the day or the night? Against the dark.  
When is the last time you saw a starry sky? Against the dark.  
What’s your favorite part of the moon? Against the dark.  
Fountain.  
Have you seen the Trevi fountain in Rome? Fountain.  
Have you ever seen the fountain in Lincoln center? Fountain.  
Have you seen fountains out in the wild? Fountain.  
What’s it like when you have an orgasm. Fountain.  
Have you read the Fountainhead? Fountain.  
White Fountain.  
Is it pure white? White Fountain.  
Is that a metaphor? White Fountain.  
How did the white Fountain make you feel? White Fountain.  
A tall white fountain played.  
When you were little did you ever fall into a Fountain? A Tall White Fountain.  
Do you like fire, earth, air or water? A Tall White Fountain.  
Do you like skipping around in the water? A Tall White Fountain.  
A blood black nothingness.  
A system of cells.  
Within cells interlinked.  
Within one stem.  
And dreadfully distinct.  
Against the dark.  
A tall white fountain played

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/3 "2020-09-05T18:13:54Z")

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■■■■ me Im trippin balls right now

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**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/4 "2020-09-05T18:22:03Z")

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/5 "2020-09-05T18:40:19Z")

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![Tdpy0Jw](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/2/3264bc9e160c065b442420bbf906549846c7cc3f.gif)

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**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/6 "2020-09-05T18:51:38Z")

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nice Nabokov quote.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/7 "2020-09-05T19:01:09Z")

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![92955e78021d63a90560efb91e80c327](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/e/6ed48ec544debaccdceb8d7fcfe9812200d17bf1.gif)

> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#):
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> nice Nabokov quote.

dont know what is a Nabokov but ty

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/8 "2020-09-05T19:12:58Z")

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My first reaction was:  
_2GM/c^2 and if it is, it isn’t…_

Then I saw the Nabokov and realised that someone had gone further off the deep end that I ever would.  
And @tutucox_Khamsi, I salute you for it.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/9 "2020-09-05T19:50:02Z")

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> **[Vladimir Nabokov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Nabokov)**
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> Vladimir Vladimirovich Nabokov\[b\] (Russian: Владимир Владимирович Набоков \[vlɐˈdʲimʲɪr vlɐˈdʲimʲɪrəvʲɪtɕ nɐˈbokəf\] (listen); 22 April \[O.S. 10 April\] 1899\[a\] – 2 July 1977), also known by the pen name Vladimir Sirin (Владимир Сирин), was a Russian-American novelist, poet, translator and entomologist. Born in Russia, he wrote his first nine novels in Russian (1926–38). After 15 years in Berlin, he achieved international prominence after moving to the United States, where he began writing in Englis...

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/10 "2020-09-05T19:55:46Z")

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Wtf is going on in here? :psyccp:

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/11 "2020-09-05T19:59:58Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/e/be1b2edb4bedf39994976e0693801e664c4f0773.jpeg "source: imgur.com")](https://imgur.com/4E4dLrb)

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/12 "2020-09-05T21:54:48Z")

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It’s a passage from his book Pale Fire, reworked for Bladerunner 2049 by Ryan Gosling.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/13 "2020-09-06T00:19:49Z")

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![eve-o](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/e/6ebe4a0ac9090fc676036b29e301fb37d6d0ea11.png)

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/14 "2020-09-06T00:50:27Z")

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> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#):
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> It’s a passage from his book Pale Fire, reworked for Bladerunner 2049 by Ryan Gosling.

ohhh nice to know  
to me it was only the baseline test from Bladerunner  
i find it beautiful

edit:  
i checked a pdf of the original you can recognize but is very different  
didn’t know Ryan Gosling was such a intelligent man

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**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/15 "2020-09-06T14:15:38Z")

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he’s clearly read the book, it’s something you don’t forget (like your first kiss), and it’s something you can misquote and it still sounds weirdly right.

It’s the first book I downloaded onto my Kindle and every other reader device I’ve owned previously.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/16 "2020-09-06T15:37:30Z")

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12 steps.

Take a shot for every step closer.

By the time you get there, absolutly.

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For a second, I thought it was a tribute thread to Kansas, then I saw it was “no” not “know”,…darn.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/18 "2020-09-06T17:18:10Z")

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Wow. They discovered Pale Fire…through a B-movie, no less.

Won’t wonders never cease?

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When will they discover Roadside Picnic?

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-radius-of-the-point-of-no-return-and-is-it-spinning/265033/20 "2020-09-06T18:42:25Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/2/9249e3414c6998c9d3ca00c55541f2077a7eca8b.jpeg "Multileg Point of No Return (PNR) or Radius of Action calculations - DGCA Tutorials") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDR6rd_-P14)

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