# What is your definition of PVP?

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**Created:** [February 12, 2024, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-definition-of-pvp/439399 "2024-02-12T06:33:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-definition-of-pvp/439399/4 "2024-02-12T07:36:08Z")

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> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> Some people seem to believe EVE online has a strong focus on PVP

Those who do not believe it are … wrong. See [8 Golden Rules for EVE Online](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973) - which apparently YOU still have not read, absorbed and understood, let alone accepted.

> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> most players seem to never do any PVP.

“Most” being the important word there, we can break this down into two categories:

1. if most players have never done pvp, there is no issue, leading to “end of discussion thx for coming”
2. you would have to prove that “most” is indeed the numerical majority. Since there is no way of including anyone without some SSI connection to a public killboard that claim would be unprovable, which again leads to “end of discussion thx for coming”

> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> I know some of you are going to argue that mining, industry and selling and buying on the market is PVP but that definition doesn’t fit actual PVP games like Counter-Strike and Chess.

Interestingly but not unexpectedly you narrow down what respondents can come up with as their definition of PvP. Again, that leads to an “end of discussion thx for coming”

> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> Imo PVP in EVE online is just a spice.

Thank you for your opinion. In chili the hot spices make all the difference between a good chili and a bland one.

> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> And its being ruined by ganking and havoc among other things

So you rule out ganking as a form of PvP. So noted. We disagree, which leads to “End of Discussion” given your history of thread spamming on the subject.

Have a nice day.

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