# What is your ISK per hour ratio? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 23, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442 "2024-08-23T12:01:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/33 "2024-08-24T06:17:47Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > I trade gold and btc irl and I buy plex from ccp and sell it ingame > > I make around 5k bucks a day > > So currently running at around 100 bil isk/hr. And you need to share this so called “fact” on an internet forum where most people lie through their teeth to gain adorations or applause? > [@Verlyn](#): > > I do log on occasionally on freebie mode. > > Still undecided if I should turn in that isk/hr ratio from RL trading into ingame currency, or not. > > I certainly dont feel CCP deserves a single penny atm. Then you say this? You make so much and then youre undecided whether Eve, an online game, is a good “investment” of your riches? Smacks of desperation and the need to validate yourself. But hey do whatever floats your boat. As Mr Epeen and others have stated industry is a good route but its, like most things in Eve, quite cutthroat. Good margins though when I did it years ago… well decade now or more. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/34 "2024-08-24T08:37:30Z")
I just keep a float of a couple of B to make purchases and to pay for manufacturing jobs, but anything beyond that is usually spent on ships. I like to keep at least 2 of any ship (more if I like em) fitted and ready so that if one gets blow’d up I can immediately use the second without an unscheduled schlep to Market. I have a number of bases around New Eden and like to have a lot of the same stuff at each so that I can just jump into a clone and do stuff without wondering if I have what I need. Am I missing out by not sitting on a high ISK balance? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/35 "2024-08-24T09:36:58Z")
> [@Eternus8lux8lucis](#): > > Then you say this? It does sounds odd , doesn’t it ? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/38 "2024-08-24T14:26:52Z")
Terms and conditions apply, the value of investments can go down as well as up, your phone can ring and the caller ID can just be the word MARGIN ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/39 "2024-08-24T14:27:34Z")
Lmao haha ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/40 "2024-08-24T16:04:09Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Yeah, Eve requires time investment Why waste your time earning/stealing ISK ingame, when you can simply win EVE by buying/selling PLEX? Your claims of income need to be proven however. This can be done simply by sending Zaera **100 billiion ISK** , which she will return. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/a/b/bab11aea05337bf1ffb639773af060845caac8cc.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/41 "2024-08-24T16:56:47Z")
No idea. I never cared about that. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/42 "2024-08-24T17:17:27Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Why waste your time earning/stealing ISK ingame, when you can simply win EVE by buying/selling PLEX? Indeed, why waste time grinding ingame currency, and focus time on building something directly with folks and with a common goal. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/43 "2024-08-24T17:22:56Z")
eve is a game, not a job… don’t care about isk per hour as i play for fun and relaxation away from the RW ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/44 "2024-08-24T17:34:46Z")
Buying ingame currency is more efficient than grinding, but it can ruin the game for you as why spend time trying to get something when you can just buy it. What have you accomoplished when everythign you have was acquired with your credit card? What risk do you take when you can replace all your losses easily with your credit card? Instead of using cheap frigates for pvp , you just buy another strategic cruiser or navy ship ( winks at @DrysonBennington)? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/45 "2024-08-24T17:54:19Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > eve is a game, not a job… don’t care about isk per hour You level other players standing for free? Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/46 "2024-08-24T17:58:08Z")
I am unsure why everyone assumes a Credit card is used for this. I imagine most people are using Debit cards. Paying 24% interest on PLEX is probably not the most astute financial transaction to be fair. In any case, there are things money can’t buy, like manufacturing jobs and the completion thereof. Also rare BPs, which can only be _found_ or _stolen_ (if they’re on contracts, they’re not rare!) ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/50 "2024-08-24T19:16:03Z")
> [@Akkar\_Kardashev](#): > > there are things money can’t buy ![mastercard1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/0/0/800e8ef99fc265e8789be9a5b223ad28a52c02d2.png) ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/51 "2024-08-24T19:32:40Z")
Yes I realised as I was typing it but I didn’t expect anyone to hang a lantern on it 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/53 "2024-08-24T19:45:19Z")
True I dont think the buying of ingame currency strictly restricts myself to buying/flying ships though Plenty other things to build with it. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/54 "2024-08-24T19:56:49Z")
> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#): > > Such proof that ganking doesn’t pay well… Maybe it isn’t about the money ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/55 "2024-08-24T19:58:25Z")
Exactly! ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/56 "2024-08-24T20:01:26Z")
There was some potential for this to be an interesting thread before the NPCs took over (as usual). Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/57 "2024-08-24T20:05:04Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/a/7/aa759464b520aa02647b52214e8f8dd94e59d01a.gif) @Mr_Epeen ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-your-isk-per-hour-ratio/459442/58 "2024-08-24T20:36:53Z")
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