# What kind of ingame advantages CCP provide exclusively for the CSM members?

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**Created:** [December 14, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702 "2021-12-14T12:05:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/21 "2021-12-17T14:38:42Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Have you ever modified your ship fits to account for that fact, fit it for maximum survivability and play the tank role of other games with the natural aggro that your name draws in PvP?

100%. I’m always brick tanked when I know we’re going somewhere where I’m likely to die first. Sometimes I even fly a Monitor as a joke.

> [@Kylanti\_Hendar](#):
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> You probably buy your fleet a few free kills. Although I’m sure it sucks for you.

They call it being “Brisc tanked” and that means they usually get away.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/22 "2022-01-10T07:10:55Z")

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They get to keep themselves and their friends (read: nullsec) as the priority of attention.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/23 "2022-01-10T07:25:45Z")

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As opposed to 72 hours of solo controlling your hole?

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/24 "2022-01-10T14:40:03Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> They get to keep themselves and their friends (read: nullsec) as the priority of attention.

Right, because everybody loves CCP’s attention.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/25 "2022-01-11T09:01:15Z")

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You are obsessed with me.

## **Arcturen Sanguis Fan Club**

Leader: Gix Firebrand @Gix_Firebrand ([Gix Firebrand | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/734893156/))  
Public Relations: Shipwreck Jones @Shipwreck_Jones ([Shipwreck Jones | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/95869853/))  
Talking Heads: Uriel The Flame @Uriel_the_Flame ([Uriel the Flame | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/2112718513/))

Yes, they comment on every post I make. No, they don’t play the game. Yes, those are their real zkills when they did.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/26 "2022-01-11T09:03:02Z")

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Hmmm let’s see

Lets compare in the last 5 years:  
Updates to wormhole space  
Updates to mission running  
Updates to Faction Warfare

and:  
Updates to Nullsec

I wonder where the CSM drags all CCP’s attention?? hmmm?? Not like other parts of the game desperately need improvement or anything

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/27 "2022-01-11T09:57:03Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Yes, they comment on every post I make. No, they don’t play the game. Yes, those are their real zkills when they did.

Huh. Weird considering I was playing tonight? ROFL. You know uh, people can play EVE without losing or killing ships daily depending on what their doing right?

Its wild that you think it means we don’t play ROFL.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I wonder where the CSM drags all CCP’s attention?? hmmm?? Not like other parts of the game desperately need improvement or anything

You already admitted your WH is an ISK faucet. Don’t you remember you bragging to Aiko? What more needs improving?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/28 "2022-01-11T10:08:13Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> You are obsessed with me.

Oh? You’re the one that has my name in every post you make 😃

You owned yourself bruv 😃

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/29 "2022-01-11T10:14:58Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> > [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> > You are obsessed with me.
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> Oh? You’re the one that has my name in every post you make

Yup pretty hilarious how he accuses others of what actually he does (and those others don’t). I guess he expected an echo chamber when he came to the forums and now he’s utterly disappointed with people not agreeing with him (and rightfully so at that).

🤭

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/30 "2022-01-11T10:16:34Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Yup pretty hilarious how he accuses others of what actually he does (and those others don’t). I guess he expected an echo chamber when he came to the forums and now he’s utterly disappointed with people not agreeing with him (and rightfully so at that).

It honestly boggles my mind. I don’t understand what he expected to happen haha.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/31 "2022-01-11T20:33:04Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Hmmm let’s see
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> Lets compare in the last 5 years:  
> Updates to wormhole space  
> Updates to mission running  
> Updates to Faction Warfare
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> and:  
> Updates to Nullsec
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> I wonder where the CSM drags all CCP’s attention?? hmmm?? Not like other parts of the game desperately need improvement or anything

Who has been pushing for updates to all of those things? Me.

If they’re not on CCP’s list of things to do, they don’t get attention, regardless of who is on the CSM. Phantomite and Torvald couldn’t get them to pay attention to FW. Exookiz couldn’t get them to pay attention to WHs.

Most of the attention that’s been paid to nullsec has been bad - nerf after nerf after nerf.

Highsec, where most players live, has gotten the bulk of the buffs and the benefits. There’s one highsec only guy on the CSM.

The make up of the CSM makes very little difference on what CCP decides to focus their attention on. The bulk of the last year’s development time has been spent on new player stuff, not veteran game play.

So, hey.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/32 "2022-01-12T00:07:57Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> Highsec, where most players live, has gotten the bulk of the buffs and the benefits. There’s one highsec only guy on the CSM.

Maybe I am just that damn good.

nah

m

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/33 "2022-01-12T00:17:24Z")

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I vote all CSMs get an istakill button once per day.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/34 "2022-01-12T08:18:35Z")

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Hmmm. So what the hell is the purpose of CSM if you guys have no power? Aren’t you supposed to be our collective voices and take our issues to CCP?

If they don’t care what you have to say, they don’t care what we (non’CSM) have to say, whats the point?

I honestly expected better from CCP, CSM should be taken very seriously.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/35 "2022-01-12T10:27:21Z")

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Wut. They do have power. Immense power. Hence the insta kill button 😃

I mean tho, if I was Brisc and you popped off to me like this, I’d just have to mention to CCP that maybe we should take another look at loot tables in WHs and how they are still ISK faucets 😃

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/36 "2022-01-12T18:27:03Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Hmmm. So what the hell is the purpose of CSM if you guys have no power? Aren’t you supposed to be our collective voices and take our issues to CCP?

We’re a focus group. We have influence and we can provide feedback, but in the end, if they want to do something, they’re going to do it. We’ve been unable to convince them on scarcity, for example.

It’s not they don’t care what we say, they care, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to agree or do what we want simply because we say so.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-kind-of-ingame-advantages-ccp-provide-exclusively-for-the-csm-members/341702/37 "2022-04-12T18:27:33Z")

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