# What makes EVE feel like a joke of a game to you **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 1, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-makes-eve-feel-like-a-joke-of-a-game-to-you/54796 "2018-02-01T21:03:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 420
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-makes-eve-feel-like-a-joke-of-a-game-to-you/54796/420 "2018-02-23T18:41:18Z")
This guy is Fab Rod and Alpha Slow > [@The cost of suicide ganking is too low](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cost-of-suicide-ganking-is-too-low/40033/524): > > How does CCP define griefing here? I know plenty of guys who quit once they learned about suicide ganking the hard way. Oops there goes several days/weeks/months worth of effort because the game didn’t sufficiently inform you that concord won’t always blow them up before they get you. Its one of the biggest things that make EVE a joke of a game for so many people. If it was something that was reserved for the hardcore and affluent instead of for new players like it is now, it could be a diff… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-makes-eve-feel-like-a-joke-of-a-game-to-you/54796)._