# What on earth have you done to the new player experience?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080>\
**Category:** New Citizens Q&A\
**Created:** [September 9, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080 "2018-09-09T11:12:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Geganius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phoenix_geganius/32/373442_2.png) [@Phoenix\_Geganius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phoenix_Geganius)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/21 "2018-09-11T13:10:44Z")

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So how do we trade in EVE with one account? There is no way to bring your cargo safely in high-sec, someone always is watching and you need recon just to transport small cargo for a very little profit. Trading is banned then, you can trade only in corporation with escort?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/22 "2018-09-11T13:12:45Z")

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Yes you start getting it, you are never 100% safe in EVE, even in hi-sec, and that is intentional. You can mitigate the risk, you can do precautions to minimize the risk. That is all. You are not supposed to nor entitled to achieve everything at 100% chance, risk and losses are part of the game and part of industry as well, consider it as part of your expenses and plan accordingly to turn a profit.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/23 "2018-09-11T13:13:18Z")

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Blockade Runners  
DSTs  
Smaller craft for small high value items  
Dont Always Jita  
Etc

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/24 "2018-09-11T13:14:17Z")

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Also third-party hauling services and related collateral belongs to that list as well.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/25 "2018-09-11T13:15:05Z")

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There is a way to do literally anything in EvE.

Thats the challenge.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Geganius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phoenix_geganius/32/373442_2.png) [@Phoenix\_Geganius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phoenix_Geganius)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/26 "2018-09-11T13:15:17Z")

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No men, this is not going to help at all. This ■■■■ does not require explanation, it requires fixing.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/27 "2018-09-11T13:16:06Z")

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Then as I mentioned before you should try Elite Dangerous.

Braben “fixed everything wrong with EvE”, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/28 "2018-09-11T13:16:44Z")

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You can swear and drop a tantrum all you want, that just proves you don’t belong to this game. Just the same as any person who throw up the chess board and drop a tantrum when they are beaten in chess.

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/29 "2018-09-11T14:02:24Z")

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You just got a learn to be chill and calm and content and carry a nice sharp dagger coated in poison that’s how EVE works

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**Author:** ![Boldly\_Gone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boldly_gone/32/274259_2.png) [@Boldly\_Gone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boldly_Gone)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/30 "2018-09-11T19:28:29Z")

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> [@Phoenix\_Geganius](#):
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> There is no way to bring your cargo safely in high-sec,

There’s no 100% in RL either.  
Walk around in New York City with a million Dollar in a suitcase. What would you say about that? What are your tactics not to lose the money? There are plenty to minimize risks, but you have to be prepared.

Perhaps stay out of NYC and go to your local Bank. I like the trade hub in Rens, too.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Carebear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mama_carebear/32/413593_2.png) [@Mama\_Carebear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mama_Carebear)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/31 "2018-09-11T19:31:33Z")

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Looks like the usual CCP improvements.  
Years of Dev time thrown out the window.

Seagull is barely out of the door, and anything is going to hell…

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/32 "2018-09-14T11:42:38Z")

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I think smaller separate tutorials by type of activity without any npc just text and pointers should be added.

Imagine you start a hacking tutorial it shows you minimal skills needed critical modules needed such as data analyzer and generates a dummy hacking site for you to try the activity in a controlled space.

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**Author:** ![Bubba\_Billybob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bubba_billybob/32/93796_2.png) [@Bubba\_Billybob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bubba_Billybob)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/33 "2018-09-21T01:50:02Z")

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I also just made a random new character and the NPE is absolutely atrocious. I mean, I guess its much closer to actual EVE gameplay than the old one, but it tells you almost nothing and the rewards just plain SUCK. A couple random skills (social 1?) and a couple hits of 50k isk?

It explains next to nothing about how core systems work, doesn’t tell you anything about what these random skills do for you, or anything really, it feels like it was thrown together in 10 minutes by someone who doesn’t speak English as a primary language.

Also, wasn’t their excuse for the horrible sounding NuAura because of the fully voiced NPE? The new new terrible one doesn’t even have any voice acting. If we’re stuck with this, can we at least get old Aura back?

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/34 "2018-09-22T22:54:06Z")

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He he, you remind me of when my 1b iteron hauler got blown up in high sec years ago. I steamed for a few weeks, but then realised that only eve online can stir that kind of emotion. Every other mmo is boring. It’s like playing poker with fake chips.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Eardwulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eva_eardwulf/32/100621_2.png) [@Eva\_Eardwulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eva_Eardwulf)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/35 "2018-10-09T05:32:23Z")

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Lol I’m more or less entirely new, must’ve gotten lucky cause I ran over 10m in trade goods in the crappy faction freighter you get in the career missions with nothing but extra storage and a civilian turret through a 10 jump haul stretching from 1.0 to 0.2 and back just to make a few million in profit and don’t think I saw another player once.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-on-earth-have-you-done-to-the-new-player-experience/105080/36 "2019-01-07T05:32:25Z")

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