# What Prevents Abuse of, "Post Hidden by Community Flags"? 📢

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 4, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315 "2019-01-04T15:48:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/43 "2019-01-05T19:00:27Z")

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People go at their opposition ad hominem and rather trying to discredit the person than idea after some time spend disputimg something from strongly opposing points of view. Must be the thing when they feel they are out of arguments.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/44 "2019-01-05T19:03:45Z")

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_looks up two posts… hmmmmmm…_  
Your posts make a very good mirror today.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/45 "2019-01-05T19:06:01Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Must be the thing when they feel they are out of arguments.

People resolve to insults, or fallacies, when they know they are wrong and can’t accept it.  
“embrace the truth, my friend. it’s the only way you will grow” ©Shadow-Trap

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/46 "2019-01-05T19:09:20Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> _looks up two posts… hmmmmmm…_  
> Your posts make a very good mirror today.

What do you mean? Is that some sort of puzzle? I just say that you cant be friends with everybody, and sometimes you will make enemies, just by holding different candle of idea and speaking after it because you are sure its correct, and someone else will be wrong. Happens all the time.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/47 "2019-01-05T19:10:28Z")

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he means that today is a very good mirror today, duh !

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/48 "2019-01-05T19:12:38Z")

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I dont understand that but whatever. May mirrors serve everyone well. 😛

BTW I dont really hold strong beliefs about the games. Religion, politics, thats something different, but people are not allowed to post about it here. We are only discussing things here in connection to game. Even when we talk about forum moderation, its still moderation of discussion about game. Mostly. The rest, those who did not comply, they were banned permanently.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/49 "2019-01-05T19:31:01Z")

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Edit: after speaking with an admin turns out the system does not work as I thought it did and what I say below is not accurate.

It’s an evolving system.

We have the option of agreeing or disagreeing with flags. If a post gets many flags in a short amount of time it is hidden till a ISD can review it. If it’s 1 or 2 over time it is still reviewed but not hidden.

Now if a ISD find himself agreeing with the flags the system remmeber and puts more weight and meaning towards the flags. This also applies to persons who put down good flags. So if troll a is constantly flagged it takes less for that person’s post to be hidden.

If flagger A only flags post that needs to be flagged then there flags have more meaning. This is a cumulative and over time system based. And it’d always in flux. A good flagger could find themselves with less “influence” if they start dishing out bad flags.

Buldath

Edit: after speaking with an admin turns out the system does not work as I thought it did and what I say above is not accurate.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/50 "2019-01-05T19:56:58Z")

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> [@ISD\_Buldath](#):
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> If a post gets many flags in a short amount of time it is hidden till a ISD can review it. If it’s 1 or 2 over time it is still reviewed but not hidden.

I understand someone makes new alpha account for free to flag post and annoy people, when he doesnt like someone. This way it will never get fixed and all evolution is futile. Alts just break everything, together with alpha accounts its madness.

Flagging and liking should be only available after 100 post count. Revolution instead of evolution.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/51 "2019-01-05T20:18:16Z")

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There are levels to a person. If you look at your profile there is a “trust level” . New members start at 0 or 1 and it goes up to 4. That I’d our protection from your theory.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/52 "2019-01-05T20:24:10Z")

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What those trust levels change?

Can new accounts still mass flag and like, even at 0 trust level? And then posts are automatically hidden, like with trust 4?

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/53 "2019-01-05T20:26:47Z")

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Take a look [https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/](https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/)  
Many of these featured are disabled. Especially the higher function level 3 and 4 stuff that allows users to modify things.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/54 "2019-01-05T20:43:54Z")

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Looks like you dont have to post anything to flag posts, all you need is to:

> - Enter at least **5** topics
> - Read at least **30** posts
> - Spend a total of **10** minutes reading posts

Then you are free to flag all you wish.  
Seems fairly low entry point.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/55 "2019-01-05T21:46:54Z")

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Turns out I got a few things wrong and have edited my posts.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/56 "2019-01-05T23:22:48Z")

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> [@ISD\_Norros](#):
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> This is correct. It’s NOT an automatic system. CCP & ISD review all flags not the system. Doesn’t matter how many flag it, it has to be reviewed.

Yeah, right. I post “No, go away” a lot of times. Hardly ever it gets hidden. Perhaps you guys should be a bit more consistent regarding hiding posts… if it is actually true ISD only manually hide posts, which I do not believe for one second.

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**Author:** ![Sovereign\_Citizen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sovereign_citizen/32/111790_2.png) [@Sovereign\_Citizen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sovereign_Citizen)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/57 "2019-01-06T15:25:25Z")

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[quote=“Bjorn\_Tyrson, post:20, topic:131315, full:true”]  
just don’t say stupid/offensive ■■■■ and your posts won’t get flagged. and if your such a snowflake that you can’t handle the idea that someone else didn’t like what you said, I suggest you HTFU.[/quote]

You couldn’t possibly contradict yourself more. I say [HTFU](https://youtu.be/VgvM7av1o1Q) and don’t moderate the forums like a bunch of liberal ✂ female dogs ✂. CCP Guard seems to get it.

> You best watch out ■■■■■ if you’re an exploiting scammer  
> Guard will gank you in the face with his big ban hammer  
> Remove all your Isk, throw your ass in the slammer  
> Make you share a cell with a manic ISK spammer

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/58 "2019-01-06T15:43:23Z")

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I can’t be the only one thinking that this thread has run its course already.

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**Author:** ![Sovereign\_Citizen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sovereign_citizen/32/111790_2.png) [@Sovereign\_Citizen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sovereign_Citizen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/59 "2019-01-07T01:09:26Z")

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> [@Clockwork\_Robot](#):
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> I can’t be the only one thinking that this thread has run its course already.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/60 "2019-01-07T01:39:20Z")

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> [@ISD\_Norros](#):
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> This is correct. It’s NOT an automatic system. CCP & ISD review all flags not the system. Doesn’t matter how many flag it, it has to be reviewed.

That’s a little disingenuous as it is automatic. Automatic in that if it is flagged, it gets greyed out. Then, after however many days it takes for someone to get around to it, does it get properly moderated.

But as to the plethora of whiners in this thread (most of them total douchbags that deserve to be flagged most of the time), suck it up, boyos. Why the tears? If someone wants to see what you wrote, all it takes is one tiny little click. It’s not like there is no way people can gaze upon your earth shattering new way of proving what an idiot you are by posting, “your an idiot”.

Stop with the rage over nothing, people!

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/61 "2019-01-07T02:21:11Z")

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Flag all teh things!

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-prevents-abuse-of-post-hidden-by-community-flags/131315/62 "2019-01-07T02:21:27Z")

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You need to calm down.

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