# What was the desired goal of scramming rats and more worm hole connections? **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [February 12, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401 "2020-02-12T22:03:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/22 "2020-02-17T02:36:10Z")
I wish we could get some fresh lore. I never would have played this game, except for all the fiction they used to produce. Now it seems to be much less. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/23 "2020-02-17T06:29:06Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Lore can and should be adjusted to meet gameplay needs. It’s my opinion that retcons are the work of the devil, and I’m _agnostic!_ > [@Xeux](#): > > I wish we could get some fresh lore. I never would have played this game, except for all the fiction they used to produce. Now it seems to be much less. God, yes. The game’s lore and storyline fascinated me from the start, and I only wish the devs still did major events like back in the earlier days, even though I _know_ they have good reasons for avoiding that. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/24 "2020-02-18T17:35:07Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Assuming 1T pirats , 100 years life expectancy, that’s 10B death per year, so 1.4% of deaths are by capsuleer hand. Pirates are not capsuleers. There is not only one person flying their ships. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/25 "2020-02-18T17:40:50Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > Considering how many Blood Raiders the Goons alone have slaughtered since they moved back to Delve, the entire Covenant should have collapsed due to personnel shortages by now. This fails to take in to consideration that cloning technology is literally everywhere in the galaxy. You don’t think capsuleers are the only ones who use it, do you? We may be the only ones able to transfer our essence in to a new body, but anyone could have a clone made for relatively cheaply. Mass printing yourself a work force is probably fairly economical 30,000 years in to the future. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/26 "2020-02-18T17:58:48Z")
> [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > Pirates are not capsuleers. There is not only one person flying their ships. capsuleers have a crew too. But you’re right, there are several people in a ship - all of which don’t die when a ship actually explodes. > [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > Mass printing yourself a work force is probably fairly economical 30,000 years in to the future. This would be totally ineffective wrt the pandemic issues. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/27 "2020-02-18T22:03:20Z")
And how do all these clones know how to do their assigned job? Cloning someone’s body doesn’t copy their mind along with it. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/28 "2020-02-19T01:37:53Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > capsuleers have a crew too. But you’re right, there are several people in a ship - all of which don’t die when a ship actually explodes. This is EVE, not G I Joe. People aren’t waiting by escape pods to jump out at the last moment. Hate to burst your bubble, but when something gets volleyed off the field it’s a pretty safe bet few if any made it out alive. It’s easy for capsuleers, they’re already in their pods. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > This would be totally ineffective wrt the pandemic issues. 30,000 years of technological advancement and you think the flu is still a big deal? Can jump across the galaxy in under an hour moving faster than light, still struggling with the common cold. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/29 "2020-02-19T01:41:00Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > And how do all these clones know how to do their assigned job? Cloning someone’s body doesn’t copy their mind along with it. [Insert ads for every university and trade school in the game here] ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/30 "2020-02-19T05:57:12Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > And how do all these clones know how to do their assigned job? Cloning someone’s body doesn’t copy their mind along with it. Apparently, it does for capsuleers. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/31 "2020-02-19T07:56:33Z")
That’s due to the [transneural burning scanner](https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/transneural-burning-scanner), which is in otherwise limited use. I’ll have to look up more information on EvE cloning technology to be certain, but there’s no indication that mass cloning of the expert crew needed to operate a Titan takes place anywhere in New Eden with the _possible_ exception of Sansha’s Nation. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/32 "2020-02-19T12:05:17Z")
> [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > 30,000 years of technological advancement and you think the flu is still a big deal? Can jump across the galaxy in under an hour moving faster than light, still struggling with the common cold. Well that’s because you have no knowledge on biology. Our bodies NEED virus, bacterias. Typically virus are ± 5% of our DNA, while there is more bacteria for a human body than its own cells. Bacterias are evolving at a accrued rate compared to men, and if there is a mutation that appears and give the bacteria an advantage in terms of reproduction, to the cost of it’s host’s health, the bacteria will evolve that way. So yes, a population of clones would be annihilated by a simple cold. And by the definition of clones, you can’t do anything against it, and if you could prevent the bacterias and virus from evolving in the first place, you would kill the clones too (yes, mutation of a bacteria population is mandatory to allow it to be fit to the system it is in). ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/33 "2020-02-19T15:36:54Z")
The only fertilizer is manure and the best wheels are made out of wood. Technology can’t fix anything. ---
**Author:** ![Cattegirn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cattegirn/32/433202_2.png) [@Cattegirn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cattegirn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/34 "2020-02-20T04:42:52Z")
How are the best wheels made of wood? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/35 "2020-02-20T04:57:41Z")
In a time before technology, we could never have overcome diseases. Or moved beyond wooden wheels. It was a reference to the post above it. ---
**Author:** ![Cattegirn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cattegirn/32/433202_2.png) [@Cattegirn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cattegirn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/36 "2020-02-20T05:08:14Z")
Manure is a really good fertilizer though, you were correct on that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/37 "2020-02-20T05:09:16Z")
The cow does not actually add any nutrients. If you just composted all that grass it would be even better. ---
**Author:** ![Cattegirn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cattegirn/32/433202_2.png) [@Cattegirn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cattegirn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/38 "2020-02-20T08:00:14Z")
You do have a keen mind, O7 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/39 "2020-02-20T10:10:29Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > In a time before technology, we could never have overcome diseases. That one is true. Actually before or after technology. Diseases is a part of living. It takes more time to find a cure, than it takes time for a disease to evolve or a new one to appear. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-was-the-desired-goal-of-scramming-rats-and-more-worm-hole-connections/219401/40 "2020-05-20T10:10:30Z")
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