# What would you do if you Couldn’t Gank? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 13, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244 "2026-06-13T01:24:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Arturo\_Arguendo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arturo_arguendo/32/503104_2.png) [@Arturo\_Arguendo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arturo_Arguendo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/305 "2026-06-23T01:45:46Z")
Didn’t they just make 1.0 hisec a non pvp area? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/306 "2026-06-23T01:51:00Z")
Yes, “safe-sec.” ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/307 "2026-06-23T02:32:55Z")
Just the new starter area known as exordium. Anything out of side of that is potential pvp. That is really all that has changed. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/308 "2026-06-23T08:40:58Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Did you stomp your foot when you wrote that? He’s desperate to find a win anywhere else but inside the game, since he clearly can’t get any. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/309 "2026-06-23T17:13:47Z")
CCP is getting rid of PvP. THE END OF PVP! What will you do when the game is dead? * * * WHAT WILL YOU DO?\*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/310 "2026-06-23T17:54:40Z")
I’d start up Turtle EVE, a private server with PvP and vibecoded cosmetics for your ships and characters like Hello Kitty SKINR stickers and cute cat ear hair accessories. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/311 "2026-06-23T17:55:35Z")
Omg, Turtle EvE is so great. The devs are way nicer. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/312 "2026-06-23T18:52:29Z")
> [@Eaglefeather](#): > > None of those “great wars” happen in high sec. None of that “great destruction” happens in high sec. You’ve simply made the case for high sec becoming fully PvE having absolutely no bearing on the economy. High Sec will always have some bearing on the economy. It produces. People lose ships in PvE all the time. Miners mine 24/7. That’s economy. High Sec spends money a lot. Billions are spent. Billions are earned. ---
**Author:** ![Eaglefeather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eaglefeather/32/495791_2.png) [@Eaglefeather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eaglefeather)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/313 "2026-06-23T20:03:58Z")
Exactly. There’s no need for PvP in High Sec. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/314 "2026-06-23T21:46:24Z")
For umpteenth time again PVP happens. War dec’s are still a thing. PVP can and will happen anywhere in eve except for Exordium. While you may not like it. It is still going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/315 "2026-06-23T21:54:56Z")
> [@Eaglefeather](#): > > There’s no need for PvP in High Sec. Market Undercut is a form of PvP ---
**Author:** ![Jump\_Now\_Jump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jump_now_jump/32/498572_2.png) [@Jump\_Now\_Jump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jump_Now_Jump)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/316 "2026-06-23T22:29:44Z")
Hm… as person who is not ganking, I will face economical issues… market will stale… ---
**Author:** ![Eaglefeather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eaglefeather/32/495791_2.png) [@Eaglefeather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eaglefeather)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/317 "2026-06-23T23:00:54Z")
Yes, it is and it’s fine. I’m also sure you knew exactly what I meant but you do you. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/318 "2026-06-23T23:01:56Z")
There is no such thing as market ganking. Even market “PvP” is a stretch. Nice try, but nope. ---
**Author:** ![Eaglefeather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eaglefeather/32/495791_2.png) [@Eaglefeather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eaglefeather)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/319 "2026-06-23T23:02:12Z")
War decs fine, because then I know exactly who is coming for me. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/320 "2026-06-24T02:35:32Z")
So after 300 or so odd posts, it sounds like the answer to the question I posed is: **Quit**. Or barring that, just get really, really upset on the forums… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/321 "2026-06-24T02:37:47Z")
It’s too bad we’re not looking at more ways to encourage consensual PvP in high-sec outside of straight ganking. Basically criminal activities other than theft, scams or duels (aka: seal clubbing) that exclude fleet involvement. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/322 "2026-06-24T03:21:01Z")
> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#): > > For umpteenth time again PVP happens. War dec’s are still a thing. PVP can and will happen anywhere in eve except for Exordium. While you may not like it. It is still going to happen. I hate war decs. They should never have been a thing. They only exist to turn PvP on in high sec to let someone attack someone else and STILL maintain Concord protection if a 3rd party joins in. Structures can’t defend themselves- in fact they can’t defend themselves against anything. They’re pathetically weak and expensive thanks to that damn core. I gave up moon mining simply because I refuse to buy another Athanor. ---
**Author:** ![Jump\_Now\_Jump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jump_now_jump/32/498572_2.png) [@Jump\_Now\_Jump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jump_Now_Jump)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/323 "2026-06-24T06:47:34Z")
Oh, looks like they will join your club of upset pilots on forum. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/324 "2026-06-24T08:25:14Z")
Which is PVP. If your grief is with gankers. I do beleve the line forms behind yonder carebear. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244.md?page=17)