# What would you do if you Couldn’t Gank? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 13, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244 "2026-06-13T01:24:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/526 "2026-07-12T20:22:24Z")
We will never know since the decisions are already made…excordium was just a test balloon, there was no real outrage and now the expanding to the whole of high can start… I smell many ragequits here… ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/527 "2026-07-12T21:24:52Z")
> [@Uta\_Asmai](#): > > We will never know since the decisions are already made…excordium was just a test balloon, there was no real outrage and now the expanding to the whole of high can start… I smell many ragequits here… You know, one of the defining hallmarks of a ganker is adapting to adversity. Operating in high sec has unique challenges and limitations, that you don’t get anywhere else. And they’re all highly unfavorable for the attacking side: You lose your ship, you only get a brief moment to attack, you lose security status and eventually get chased down by faction police, and the list goes on. If you want to persist in this profession, you have to find ways to deal with all this. If we can no longer operate in high sec, we can just move on. Low, Null, or even J-Space, all these regions have unique rules and challenges, but compared to high sec, they’re much more forgiving for the attacking side. Things will be different, and the strategies used will have to be revised. It may at times even be difficult. But we have the capability to adapt and overcome the challenges. The same cannot be said for our most outspoken critics. Regularly, you refuse to accept reality, and you refuse to adapt and master your environment. Instead of learning tactics and make preparations that respect the space that you are in, you choose to be easy prey. And then you seek to appeal to higher authority to bend the literal rules of reality, so you can survive. Your inability to learn and master the high sec life has made you incredibly emotionally invested into the downfall of high sec ganking, the only source of danger in high sec. You are positively obsessed with us, you can think of nothing else! Even when ganking is gone, we will still be here, and we will thrive, even if it is in a different environment. You however, are destined to be stuck in perpetual failure. When ganking is gone, you will inevitabily stumble over your next obstacle, realize you are helpless and unable to overcome it, and bitterly complain to have this removed as well. Just something for you to think about. With evolving regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/528 "2026-07-12T21:49:12Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > You know, one of the defining hallmarks of a ganker is adapting to adversity. Operating in high sec has unique challenges and limitations, that you don’t get anywhere else. And they’re all highly unfavorable for the attacking side: You lose your ship, you only get a brief moment to attack, you lose security status and eventually get chased down by faction police, and the list goes on. If you want to persist in this profession, you have to find ways to deal with all this. > > If we can no longer operate in high sec, we can just move on. Low, Null, or even J-Space, all these regions have unique rules and challenges, but compared to high sec, they’re much more forgiving for the attacking side. Things will be different, and the strategies used will have to be revised. It may at times even be difficult. But we have the capability to adapt and overcome the challenges. > > The same cannot be said for our most outspoken critics. Regularly, you refuse to accept reality, and you refuse to adapt and master your environment. Instead of learning tactics and make preparations that respect the space that you are in, you choose to be easy prey. And then you seek to appeal to higher authority to bend the literal rules of reality, so you can survive. Your inability to learn and master the high sec life has made you incredibly emotionally invested into the downfall of high sec ganking, the only source of danger in high sec. You are positively obsessed with us, you can think of nothing else! > > Even when ganking is gone, we will still be here, and we will thrive, even if it is in a different environment. You however, are destined to be stuck in perpetual failure. When ganking is gone, you will inevitabily stumble over your next obstacle, realize you are helpless and unable to overcome it, and bitterly complain to have this removed as well. > > Just something for you to think about. > > With evolving regards > -James Fuchs Just one simple remark…you are the one in a million that actually sees it this chilled… All the rest is calling out armageddon and holds up ‘the end is nigh’ signs… Maybe you don’t see it this way but you sir are an exception in a sea of chaos prophets. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/529 "2026-07-12T23:12:00Z")
> [@Maximus\_Raaz](#): > > My issue is I play Eve on a MacBook Air [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/9/5/495632387e6216f50048855784ae535a1ec764ec.jpeg "When the customer games on a mac") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYv3-HfRNcA) ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/530 "2026-07-12T23:38:43Z")
I use a MacMini. ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/531 "2026-07-13T12:27:48Z")
I use win 3.1…still works fine… ---
**Author:** ![Maximus\_Raaz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximus_raaz/32/492068_2.png) [@Maximus\_Raaz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximus_Raaz)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/532 "2026-07-13T12:30:54Z")
I agree that gaming on a MacBook is a compromise, but I really don’t want to have to carry 2 laptops in my travels. So a MacBook it is. Also, if I chose to have a PC gaming laptop, I most likely wouldn’t be playing EVE at all. EVE is one of the best games for a Mac but I n my opinion, not so for windows. Just my opinion…. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/533 "2026-07-13T17:26:47Z")
It is doing well. A new expansion just came out. I hope to look at it soon. But as in all games. you have those swearing it is on its death bed for the last 20 plus years.. Shrugs Introducing something. Making a big deal of it. Then not a whisper of it again. Is a bad habit that I have seen in most MMO’s. My granddaughter plays in a different MMO game. One where it is sometimes referred to by 2 W’s and an O. She loves the lore and canon, but has complained that something that was introduced a good decade back has never been heard from again. Still the Canon and lore in EVE Online are interesting. it does engage my imagination and while we have not heard from the Enheduanni in a dogs age. Still it is there. Perhaps some where down the line it could be. Though as for leaving notes for the next crop of DEV’s that almost never seems to happen either. A funny story that my granddaughter that worked for a certain company told me as a consultant and for a lack of a better word bug hunter. When this certain game that the devs and staff had bought from their employers. Were looking at revamping and maybe changing the guild places. The dev that was working on this. Got into one of those huge blowup fights. Things were said. The dev that was working on the guilds places. Quit. Not just quit. But literally erased all of his notes. Everything that he had been doing. All of it. The entire code deleted. To this day. Because of the age of the code. Not only is there no one able to really read it, but the way the guild places is coded into the game. No one is sure just where to look. The company is not a large one. It is not a triple A studio with many dev’s. Small staff. The dev that quit has categorically refused to even talk to anyone that works there. A dev leaving and not leaving notes is not unusual. Though you would think it would be. Right now everyone is all caught up with the new shiny things and the ongoing wars with the Goons and whomever they are currently fighting. Though that last seems to have stopped with the current new shiny that most are going after. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/534 "2026-07-13T17:40:13Z")
And yet you have never provided any evidence of this even being discussed by any dev. It certainly is not in the producers letter. It certainly was not mentioned or even hinted at the recent fanfest. Yet you act as though this going to happen. Based on what I can only presume is your wishful thinking. Unless you have something more than your word on this? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/535 "2026-07-13T19:50:29Z")
I cannot say if a macbook air would run no man’s sky since i have zero insight into that game’s Apple support level. I have a strong PC so I don’t know about any limitations the game may have. Sorry. I can say this much- No Man’s Sky has walking in station!!! 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/536 "2026-07-13T22:08:21Z")
> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#): > > And yet you have never provided any evidence of this even being discussed by any dev. It certainly is not in the producers letter. It certainly was not mentioned or even hinted at the recent fanfest. Yet you act as though this going to happen. Based on what I can only presume is your wishful thinking. Unless you have something more than your word on this? Well…you can get the ‘evidence’ yourself by simply asking them directly. Which i did. Only if you actually TALK to people you get such information, not if you flame people for spreading what they have evaluated on an internet forum or doubt what they say. You don’t WANT it to be true that maybe is right…but the guts to actually prove me wrong by getting such information is beyond you? You don’t dare because ‘i COULD be right’? I don’t know about you but until you really prove me wrong i don’t see any evidence that i am neither…so your assumption is not valid at all… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/537 "2026-07-13T23:22:49Z")
Those that can’t PvE or PvP… gank. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/538 "2026-07-14T07:03:36Z")
What if Concord didn’t pop their ships but instead start chasing after them instead of draining their energy they use webs to slow them down and 3 concord ships all web the criminal pilot and force them to eject from their ship. But they must stay on grid while inside their pod and must set self destruct. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/539 "2026-07-14T10:50:48Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Those that can’t PvE or PvP… gank. 🤣 Some of us choose not to PvE because it’s boring. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/540 "2026-07-14T11:01:39Z")
> [@Maximus\_Raaz](#): > > EVE is one of the best games for a Mac but I n my opinion, not so for windows. People need to see it for themselves to understand how hard they are getting shafted. When the M1 came out I could run EVE for about 6 hours before the battery went flat. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/541 "2026-07-14T11:09:13Z")
> [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#): > > Some of us choose not to PvE because it’s boring. And some of us choose not to gank because we also view it as boring. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/542 "2026-07-14T11:09:55Z")
Somebody is incredibly salty. With seasoned regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/543 "2026-07-14T11:13:34Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > Somebody is incredibly salty. Haha, not in the least. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/544 "2026-07-14T11:19:15Z")
If you say so. With doubtful regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/545 "2026-07-14T15:25:20Z")
> [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#): > > Some of us choose not to PvE because it’s boring. No…It’s because you are not able to get boss mechanics like all of your kind in every game…it’s a pure skill issue 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244.md?page=26) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244.md?page=28)