# What would you do if you Couldn’t Gank?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 13, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244 "2026-06-13T01:24:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/105 "2026-06-17T10:44:35Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> Having spent the past 4 days frivolously mining ore for this stupid campaign I can attest that mining isn’t the “afk” activity it used to be.

Absolute truth here. No ganker believes this. A single rock can be vaporized in 30 seconds now.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/106 "2026-06-17T10:46:48Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> (OOC: How am I always right about everything?)

Because you are fabulous ?

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/107 "2026-06-17T10:50:45Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> Gankers are a dying breed.

Don’t you tease me into going back to it.

HS would burn proper, and not even scared of isk inefficiency.

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**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/108 "2026-06-17T11:03:51Z")

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I did speak against it, I still think it’s ■■■■, i.e. to have the start area of an MMO being not multiplayer.

I have lost a few ships to CONCORD but I’m not really a ganker any more. I stopped when they stopped paying out insurance.

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**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/109 "2026-06-17T12:34:19Z")

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/110 "2026-06-17T12:44:35Z")

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> [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#):
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> you mean further
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> but even then you would still be wrong.

1. who cares
2. no i’m not, the reality of the game is like it is regardless what people with a weird hobby like pvp in it try to tell you
3. said reality is confirmed by the people that run this game
4. so YOU are wrong and denying this only let’s you look like a child in a supermarket that throws itself on the floor hitting the ground with fists and feet because it doesn’t get the candy it wants so desperately

Summary : get adult and face the reality that OTHER people than yourself will get candy in the future and you will get none…i know it’s hard, but that’s part of becoming an adult…

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/111 "2026-06-17T12:53:26Z")

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> [@Verlyn](#):
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> I stopped HS ganking a while ago, but should that happen, I would give one hard final salute to an officially dead game.

YOUR game would die…not THE game…there’s a big difference…

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**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/112 "2026-06-17T13:02:52Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> Summary : get adult and face the reality that OTHER people than yourself will get candy in the future and you will get none…i know it’s hard, but that’s part of becoming an adult…

lol, whatever.

I have no idea what your pathetic analogy is meant to mean, but trust me I am very happy with the amount of candy I will receive in the future.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/113 "2026-06-17T13:30:40Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> YOUR game would die…not THE game…there’s a big difference…

Sure, but don’t go around calling it EvE anymore then.

Which literally stood for Everyone vs Everyone in its inception.

Just call it FarmSpace Online and accept what you are now playing.

Don’t come back and complain it’s become too boring shooting at non-sentient pixels all day long.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/114 "2026-06-17T13:32:25Z")

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> [@Verlyn](#):
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> Sure, but don’t go around calling it EvE anymore then.
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> Which literally stood for Everyone vs Everyone in its inception.

It will become Environment vs Environment. 🤔

🤭

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/115 "2026-06-17T13:35:45Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> It will become Environment vs Environment. 🤔

lmao ..

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/116 "2026-06-17T13:59:11Z")

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> [@Verlyn](#):
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> Sure, but don’t go around calling it EvE anymore then.
> 
> Which literally stood for Everyone vs Everyone in its inception.
> 
> Just call it FarmSpace Online and accept what you are now playing.
> 
> Don’t come back and complain it’s become too boring shooting at non-sentient pixels all day long.

LOL DUDE…

It’s still the same game…

It’s just not the case that gankers can gank anywhere IN HIGH without real consequences anymore.

You are basicly complaining about not being spoiled anymore. You can still ‘gank’ or ‘pvp’ in low and null…

But i get it…at those places people are actually able to shoot back and the risk is higher, hm? That’s the outrage all about…no ‘PVP’ against targets that cannot shoot back anymore…

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/117 "2026-06-17T14:05:16Z")

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> [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#):
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> lol, whatever.
> 
> I have no idea what your pathetic analogy is meant to mean, but trust me I am very happy with the amount of candy I will receive in the future.

You know EXACTLY what i mean with the ‘pathetic analogy’ mr ‘I’m spoiled and i want to keep it that way or i declare the game dead’…you find change inconviniend, that’s all…

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/118 "2026-06-17T14:17:35Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> LOL dude it’s still the same game…
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> It’s just not the case that gankers can gank anywhere IN HIGH without real consequences anymore.
> 
> You are basicly complaining about not being spoiled anymore. You can still ‘gank’ or ‘pvp’ in low and null…
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> But i get it…at those places people are actually able to shoot back and the risk is higher, hm? That’s the outrage all about…no ‘PVP’ against targets that cannot shoot back anymore…

It’s not, it’s no longer a - full/partial loot open world pvp game -, as it used to be called.

With Exordium now, it basically cannot be called that anymore.

It is no longer open world pvp. Everyone v Everyone.

ie: EvE.

Low sec and Nullsec, you go there EXPECTING pvp, so any pvp interactions in there are considered de facto “consensual”, and irrelevant to what ever it is you’re trying to prove, other than just hating on any form of non-consensual engagements.

And I’m betting you’ve carried on that attitude in other games, not just Eve …

You 110% carebear.

Look at my KB, I’ve lived in Lowsec for at least half of my Eve career, so I would know what Im talking about.

And before that, I dabbed into HS ganking, specifically finding ways to blap SOE mission running garmurs in Lanngisi and its whereabouts. It required creativity to pull off, and plenty of risk, and again, to prove you have no idea what ganking can specifically be about, apart from just the regular catalyst ganks …

There are countless of examples of people getting creative around a “restrictive” police system in HS, all that, you want to take away, just you can farm in peace on your comfy chair and smell your own farts.

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/119 "2026-06-17T14:24:44Z")

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> [@Verlyn](#):
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> It’s not, it’s no longer a - full/partial loot open world pvp game -, as it used to be called.
> 
> With Exordium now, it basically cannot be called that anymore.
> 
> It is no longer open world pvp. Everyone v Everyone.
> 
> ie: EvE.
> 
> Low sec and Nullsec, you go there EXPECTING pvp, so any pvp interactions in there are considered de facto “consensual”, and irrelevant to what ever it is you’re trying to prove, other than just hating on any form of non-consensual engagements.
> 
> And I’m betting you’ve carried on that attitude in other games, not just Eve …
> 
> You 110% carebear.

It never WAS a pvp game…your kind just was pampered without reasonable cause…the fact that this has ended now obviously will not kill the game…you just have to adapt and find this fact ‘inconviniend’…that is this all about…get used to the fact that you actually have to face change…if not… ----\> there is the door…you had 20 spoiled years, if you ragequit over such a minor change(and over the fact someone else got the candy for a change) you don’t deserve to be here in the first place…

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/120 "2026-06-17T14:30:06Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> It never WAS a pvp game…

lmao oh really,

So how did you expect private asset destruction and player-run game economy to run then eh brainiac ?

Through PVE only ?

…

THIS is what Eve was advertised as:

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/5/859eeae064e091a17c5bee04f9360610489e033d.jpeg "EVE Online: The Butterfly Effect") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08hmqyejCYU)

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/121 "2026-06-17T14:35:02Z")

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> [@Verlyn](#):
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> lmao oh really,
> 
> So how did you expect private asset destruction and player-run game economy to run then eh brainiac ?
> 
> Through PVE only ?

just because a playstyle was uneccessary pampered for a long time does not qualitfy the whole game as bounded to this playstyle…the ONLY reason this was the case was because the OLD devs favoured this playstyle…but things (and people) change and this is a good thing…you are free to leave the game if you don’t like it…nobody can hinder you in doing that…

And this ‘pvp fuels the game’ agenda was nonsense from the first day someone came up with it…just an urban legend without ANY reasonable proof…

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/122 "2026-06-17T14:44:41Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> just because a playstyle was uneccessary pampered for a long time does not qualitfy the whole game as bounded to this playstyle…the ONLY reason this was the case was bacause the OLD devs favoured this playstyle…but things (and people) change and this is a good thing…you are free to leave the game if you don’t like it…nobody can hinder you in doing that…
> 
> And this ‘pvp fuels the game’ agenda was nonsense from the first day someone came up with it…just an urban legend without ANY reasonable proof…

I love the way you’re using the same rhetoric people used against people complaining about gankers.

Was you butthurt for so long for 20 years, you see it as a moment of personal glory now ?

You sad man.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/123 "2026-06-17T17:33:15Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> If mining were an ‘actual activity’, then the miners wouldn’t be constantly AFK

Please define AFK.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-you-do-if-you-couldn-t-gank/513244/124 "2026-06-17T19:27:30Z")

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In bed, in the other room, eating, drinking, at work, on the floor, passed out, driving.

I’ve heard it all.

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