# What's Holding This Game Back? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 1, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098 "2022-02-01T22:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/404 "2022-04-08T16:56:45Z")
NO WEEBS! Go away you bunch of degenerates. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/405 "2022-04-08T17:04:23Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/9/7/697f8b05f16174e1866d2212397304f859f7a892.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/406 "2022-04-08T17:24:37Z")
![tFzoBnYcoSkT0TTFBCFsy1OUpiD](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/b/d/bbdf54177815325c2c93fc68a75979d69524f156.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/407 "2022-04-08T17:25:35Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Even a 10,000 ISK shuttle is a ‘loss’. ![Captura de Tela 2022-04-08 às 14.25.08](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/4/9646f6d450496ff18fc0ed970dc439b44e5edda7.png) well i lost 1544 ships so far 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MajorBean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/majorbean/32/382916_2.png) [@MajorBean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MajorBean)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/409 "2022-04-08T18:16:19Z")
What is holding Eve back? TAXES ARE TO HIGH! The economy is overheating! New players cant pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Lower the taxes for the market and contracts! Players will swarm back to Eve as soon as the taxes drop! Playercount is corresponding with lower market taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/410 "2022-04-08T18:22:43Z")
> [@Jon\_Tekitsu](#): > > Do tell what is homophobic about that post. I’m not gonna argue with you. You don’t think it’s homophobic then you must have meant something I didn’t read into it or I did read too much into it. Regardless, I don’t care that much. > [@Jon\_Tekitsu](#): > > gonna assume you started your weekend early so to speak I don’t know what you’re talking about, everyday is Saturday for me now. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/411 "2022-04-08T18:27:53Z")
He’s just angry at young people because we know how to find the _good_ hentai, while every time _he_ searches for it, all he gets is the terrible fetish stuff. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/412 "2022-04-08T18:35:47Z")
> [@MajorBean](#): > > TAXES ARE TO HIGH! The endless complaint. Taxes will always be too high because it’s BS to begin with and in a game it’s super-BS. They admonish forum members to not bring RL stuff into EVE or the forum but the taxes is the elephant in the room. Not only that but as Capsuleers, suposed working with such or such empire, ie: Agents, Priveteers if you will, we shouldn’t even be paying taxes. Military don’t pay taxes, generally, and to my understanding, as agents, we can be considered part of a military branch or we wouldn’t be allowed to carry out missions on military targets, pirates, terrorists… and we wouldn’t be allowed to pilot those engines of destruction and death. By the way, are the Guristas, Sanshas and other pirates clones or regular time-bound biological entities? ---
**Author:** ![MajorBean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/majorbean/32/382916_2.png) [@MajorBean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MajorBean)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/413 "2022-04-08T19:01:41Z")
> [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](#): > > The endless complaint. Taxes will always be too high because it’s BS to begin with and in a game it’s super-BS. WOW 😵‍💫 Look at this space socialist! The free market is what will help new players the most, and you know it! We need new players that form small cooperation’s, and bootstrap themselves out of highsec into the promised nullsec land. But with high taxes this road will be closed for the new player, no bootstraps, low income and damnation as an highsecminer ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/414 "2022-04-08T19:53:16Z")
> [@MajorBean](#): > > We need new players that form small cooperation’s, and bootstrap themselves out of highsec into the promised nullsec land. But with high taxes this road will be closed for the new player, no bootstraps, low income and damnation as an highsecminer I don’t know about all that. Out of the thousands of corporations there must be quite a few thousands that operate in Null so it’s not like EVE needs more corporations and it would be a few years before a new player such as myself even thinks of creating a corporation, in Null or anywhere else. First, there is too much to know and experience and I think this game deserves a thorough examination of mechanics, lore and tactics before I go prancing around the galaxy with guys I don’t know from here to Adam. Second, all the updates make progression slower because not only one frequently has to learn new ways of doing things with each update but there is already tons of things to learn from previous years, if only what happened politically between medium to large sized player-owned corporations, where, and what feuds they may have between them. And that’s only one aspect of the game. In my humble opinion, what EVE needs is an overhaul of its Skill system in favor of a Research Tree that would look a bit like the Progression scheme with a twist: the more you do something, the more you get proficient at it. For each hour/day/week that you pilot a certain ship you get Skill toward a certain skill of ship’s specs in the Mastery side. Same for the weapons and ammo and modules… Of course, that’s just my humble opinion. I don’t know much about how it all works as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/415 "2022-04-08T20:05:32Z")
High Market Taxes… NPC’s have to eat too! ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/417 "2022-04-08T22:36:04Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Like ‘free education’ for example. Nothing is free. ---
**Author:** ![Severre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/severre/32/262244_2.png) [@Severre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Severre)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098/420 "2022-04-14T16:57:23Z")
Nullsec controls all regions. Taxes going to them. Boring structure bash content. Multi-boxers. Structure bashing defense timers. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-holding-this-game-back/348098.md?page=16)