# What's the point of an epic arc if you need decent standing to get them? **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [May 22, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-an-epic-arc-if-you-need-decent-standing-to-get-them/486921 "2025-05-22T04:21:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Makeris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makeris/32/461211_2.png) [@Makeris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makeris)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-an-epic-arc-if-you-need-decent-standing-to-get-them/486921/1 "2025-05-22T04:21:11Z")
Noticed I am -4.2 for amarr and googled how to raise the standing and seeing the post/remembing epic arcs are a thing decided to look into it. Upon noticing that you need -2.0 or higher to even qualifity for the epic arc makes me question their purpose? Yes I know -2 isn’t great standing but if the point of the epic arcs is to get a boost to standing without losing other standings then why put a requirement of decent standing behind it? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose entirely? if you’re already in decent standing you can run normal missions so why have the arcs? Personally I think the standing requirement should be dropped from these arcs if their purpose is to recover your standing. I ran a bunch of l1s and gained no standing and can’t run the epic arcs so I guess I just don’t run anti amarr factions from now on… super great design ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-an-epic-arc-if-you-need-decent-standing-to-get-them/486921/2 "2025-05-22T05:59:50Z")
Well, when you did the google search it should have listed the ‘Faction Standing Repair Plan’… ‘The Plan’ shows various ways to quickly and easily gain Faction Standing… Being at -4.2 standing with Amarr won’t stop you from accessing the Sisters Of Eve Level 1 Epic Arc… Completing that arc for Amarr will give a nice boost to Faction Standing… There’s also much quicker ways to boost Faction Standing but it will cost some isk… I’m talking about buying Pirate Dog Tags from Market or Public Contracts and turning them in to the Data Center Agents… Due to various percentages of Faction Standing being rewarded, the best route to go is first complete Level 1 Faction Agents like the Career Agents, their small reward will actually make big increases to your existing negative standings.. For more info on various Faction Agents and how to access them, I suggest checking out ‘The Plan’… > [@FACTION STANDING REPAIR PLAN aka 'The Plan'](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-standing-repair-plan-aka-the-plan/8008): > > New Eden Capsuleer’s If you’re looking to travel safely through unfriendly Empire Faction space then look no further. ‘The Plan’ will help all Capsuleers to quickly gain Faction Standing with one or all Empire Factions. ‘The Plan’ [FACTION STANDING REPAIR PLAN](http://web.archive.org/web/20160225230203/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_Plan) (Right Click Link And Select ‘Open Link In New Tab’) NOTE ‘The Wayback Machine’ is used to access info contained in the discontinued Evelopedia. Skip Redirect Browser Add-on’s need to be disabled. After the ‘Faction Standing Repair Pl… ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-an-epic-arc-if-you-need-decent-standing-to-get-them/486921/3 "2025-05-22T11:35:06Z")
Aside from that, the other option is to hire the USIA to repair your amarr standings. So if you dont have diplomacy trained, i would train that as the -2.00 standing for missions is modified with diplomacy skill. Next, if you are doing L1 missions then it should give you a storyline mission after every 16 missions. That storyline will give you standings for faction (but hurt others in the process). As DMC mentioned, your career agents can do quite a bit. I think 5 agents will give more standing than the SoE arc does. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-an-epic-arc-if-you-need-decent-standing-to-get-them/486921/4 "2025-07-27T18:10:08Z")
> [@Makeris](#): > > Noticed I am -4.2 for amarr and googled how to raise the standing and seeing the post/remembing epic arcs are a thing decided to look into it. Upon noticing that you need -2.0 or higher to even qualifity for the epic arc makes me question their purpose? One good approach is through **derived standings**. Another is by doing **storyline missions** for the Mordus Legion and Ammatar Mandate factions — as I recall, they have very strong positive derived standings with Amarr. Improve your Social skills as well. This will give you easier access to mission agents and allow you to build your reputation much faster. Finally, run the **SoE Epic Arc**. The entry requirements aren’t high, and it gives you the option to significantly boost your standings with any main faction of your choice. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-an-epic-arc-if-you-need-decent-standing-to-get-them/486921/5 "2025-10-25T18:10:20Z")
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