# Whats the point of discussing ideas here? **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [November 10, 2023, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-discussing-ideas-here/427078 "2023-11-10T06:47:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-discussing-ideas-here/427078/1 "2023-11-10T06:47:26Z")
What is the point of discussing ideas when 95% of active users here seem incapable of discussing ideas? Its like their spend their limited mental capacity defending the status quo instead of trying to understand and develop an idea further. Its kind of pathetic, but so are the people who submit ideas and feedback here, or anywhere else for that matter. CCP just doesent care, the users that patrol the forum dont care. So why discus ideas and why give feedback. Why even play the game. Genuinely curious ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-discussing-ideas-here/427078/2 "2023-11-10T08:36:51Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > What is the point of discussing ideas when 95% of active users here seem incapable of discussing ideas? It’s because of Chesterson’s Fence. You routinely fail to understand the status quo and therefore waste everyone’s precious time with ideas that are riddled with poor understanding and with little to no analysis. When you’re the one always making crazy outlandish proposals, of course everyone else is going to seem like they are consistently “defending the status quo” when really they are consistently “defending against bad ideas” of which you have in copious amounts. Good job bad mouthing everyone else, I’m sure “attacking people not ideas” is going to improve the situation and elevate the dialogue. 🙄 > [@Wesfahrn](#): > > CCP just doesent care This is the underlying truth that a lot of people don’t understand. See threads like “Singularity Access” thread full of very entitled people demanding CCP listen to them and re-open Sisi access. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-discussing-ideas-here/427078/3 "2023-11-10T09:08:53Z")
1.Specifically restricted conduct. The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: Trolling Flaming **Ranting** Personal Attacks Harassment Doxxing Racism & Discrimination Hate Speech Sexism Spamming Bumping Off-Topic Posting Pyramid Quoting Rumor Mongering New Player Bashing Impersonation Advertising ### **3. Post constructively.** Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online if it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-point-of-discussing-ideas-here/427078/4 "2023-11-10T09:08:55Z")