# What's the reason for the ship tree menu to be bad?

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**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [October 20, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-reason-for-the-ship-tree-menu-to-be-bad/424470 "2023-10-20T12:54:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nokav\_Aliyar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nokav_aliyar/32/385160_2.png) [@Nokav\_Aliyar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nokav_Aliyar)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-reason-for-the-ship-tree-menu-to-be-bad/424470/1 "2023-10-20T12:54:29Z")

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Like i am a new player and things can be rough. When i see a ship name in chat i won’t go to the ship tree because that is just awful to use i go to the market to see it’s info does that make any sense? I just recently acquired a ship to fly L4’s a praxis good luck finding that in the ship tree took me forever to realize jovian ships aren’t there… Why it’s supposed to be for information and i don’t see it’s single purpose serving much purpose or at least for me a new player.

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**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-reason-for-the-ship-tree-menu-to-be-bad/424470/2 "2023-10-20T14:06:50Z")

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I use it when I am trying to remember “the t2 amarr ewar frig” and its good for newbies to see what options are available to plan towards. Concord and SOCT ships should absolutely be added.

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**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-reason-for-the-ship-tree-menu-to-be-bad/424470/3 "2023-10-20T15:17:22Z")

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> [@Nokav\_Aliyar](#):
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> took me forever to realize jovian ships aren’t there

The Praxis isn’t Jovian. It’s The Society Of Concious Thought’s Battleship.

And yes, it should be in the ship tree thing.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-reason-for-the-ship-tree-menu-to-be-bad/424470/4 "2023-10-21T15:18:04Z")

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> [@Mephiztopheleze](#):
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> The Praxis isn’t Jovian.

> **[Praxis - EVE Online Reference](https://everef.net/type/47466)**
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> "Action follows form. Form follows thought. We have thought deeply on the shape of the future. The forms have been established and now is the time to act." – Elder Mentor Matshi Raish, Geminate Chapter, Society of Conscious Thought, YC120.05.06.
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> The...

> SoCT design that uses principles derived from Jove shipbuilding techniques

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-the-reason-for-the-ship-tree-menu-to-be-bad/424470/5 "2024-01-19T15:18:41Z")

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