# What's up with Blood Raider "rats"?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-blood-raider-rats/42077>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 27, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-blood-raider-rats/42077 "2017-11-27T22:24:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Garam\_Salami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garam_salami/32/16525_2.png) [@Garam\_Salami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garam_Salami)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-blood-raider-rats/42077/1 "2017-11-27T22:24:48Z")

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This week in the 0.7 sec system that I usually mine I have been attacked twice by Blood Raider NPC ships that are surprisingly powerful, taking my Retrievers shields down in seconds before I can warp to safety. I have never seen them before and they are many times stronger than the usual Sansha rats. Also they are shown as neutral, which adds to my confusion. A few of my corp mates have confirmed this. However I find nothing on Google about this. Have you seen them too? Are they a new messure to prevent afk mining? Is there something you can do about them? Is this maybe even a bug?

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**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-blood-raider-rats/42077/2 "2017-11-27T22:40:34Z")

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Sounds like they have a Forward Operating Base nearby

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-blood-raider-rats/42077/3 "2017-11-27T22:42:08Z")

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Forward Operating Bases

[https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://updates.eveonline.com/card/1VlH3/pirate-forward-operating-bases/&ved=0ahUKEwiMoc\_D6d\_XAhUH6SYKHfQXB\_UQFggvMAE&usg=AOvVaw0Ca8jeeXGtay6iLDO-H-pZ](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://updates.eveonline.com/card/1VlH3/pirate-forward-operating-bases/&ved=0ahUKEwiMoc_D6d_XAhUH6SYKHfQXB_UQFggvMAE&usg=AOvVaw0Ca8jeeXGtay6iLDO-H-pZ)

Search on those and you will find more info.

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**Author:** ![Aurelius\_Vicci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aurelius_vicci/32/34999_2.png) [@Aurelius\_Vicci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aurelius_Vicci)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-blood-raider-rats/42077/4 "2017-11-27T23:16:04Z")

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> [@Garam\_Salami](#):
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> I have been attacked twice by Blood Raider NPC ships that are surprisingly powerful, taking my Retrievers shields down in seconds before I can warp to safety.

> [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](#):
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> Forward Operating Base nearby

Working as intended. 😍

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-blood-raider-rats/42077/5 "2018-02-25T23:16:13Z")

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