# What's up with "gf" in this game?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718 "2018-02-11T20:30:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/61 "2018-02-13T15:26:41Z")

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> [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#):
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> If that is the only possible reason for anyone ever opening a door for someone else, with no possible alternative motive, then the door analogy doesn’t work at all.

You see a little old lady. Do you hold the door open to be polite as you do for everyone? Or only because she seems older than you? Frail? Less capable? Would you do it for a woman in her 20s? An old man? A young one? Is holding it open because you think it might be difficult for a person to open still being polite or is that making a rude snap judgement about this person? Maybe they only look frail but do yoga daily and are 100 years young.

Or maybe you are looking way into this for demons that don’t exist. Maybe It’s your own quest to find some ulterior motive that is clouding your view. Maybe it really was just GF and nothing more.

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**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/62 "2018-02-13T15:30:35Z")

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> [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](#):
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> You see a little old lady. Do you hold the door open to be polite as you do for everyone? Or only because she seems older than you? Frail? Less capable? Would you do it for a woman in her 20s? An old man? A young one? Is holding it open because you think it might be difficult for a person to open still being polite or is that making a rude snap judgement about this person? Maybe they only look frail but do yoga daily and are 100 years young.

Like I said, this analogy doesn’t work.

> [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](#):
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> Or maybe you are looking way into this for demons that don’t exist. Maybe It’s your own quest to find some ulterior motive that is clouding your view. Maybe it really was just GF and nothing more.

You are overdramatizing the seriousness of someone merely suggesting that GF is not always meant nicely. I mean I know for absolute fact it is not always meant so. No quest necessary.

Perhaps you should question why you are so desperate to hold to the myth that everyone in EVE is always polite to everyone else in EVE, even when EVE is legendary for the exact opposite?

🤔

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/63 "2018-02-13T15:56:49Z")

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> [@Rhalina\_Sedai](#):
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> You gotta love Eve, a gf in local after being grossly outnumbered and destroyed is the essence of the capsuleer. Saying that, games that allow that sort of behaviour are not doing as well.

It is mainly for people who don’t get all emo about losing.

People who cry about numbers or other “unfair fight” BS are usually too butt hurt to get it.

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**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/64 "2018-02-13T16:03:51Z")

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Here’s the proper protocol:  
-If you win the fight, say GF so you can be a chivalrous and cool regular guy. Like Enemy Ace.  
-If it was a close solo fight, and the other guy also said GF, consider discussing how it happened and/or sharing your fit.  
-If you lose, say GF to let everybody know you’re a pro and not a whiney sore loser.  
-If you get killed at a gate camp or by an overwhelming blob, don’t say GF. 'Cause you’d just look like an obseqious fool.  
[![](https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/imageproxy.php?url=http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q310/VisualFiction/enemyace151747p.jpg) ](https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/imageproxy.php?url=http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q310/VisualFiction/enemyace151747p.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/65 "2018-02-13T16:04:15Z")

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Sometimes I hold the door open, because I don’t want the unwashed masses to touch it…

–Gadget will have them eat cake

😜

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/66 "2018-02-14T07:55:20Z")

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All dogs are good dogs.

All fights are GFs.

Simples.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/67 "2018-02-14T15:03:38Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> But that is not what this is. In EVE you are expected to behave like an adult. This is not LOL

It’s more complex than that. And has nothing with “being offended” or “behave like adult” or anything like that.

“gf” is like “good sport”. Either it is “good” or it is not.

For example: let’s say we roam with 3-4 people. And we get to system when something is mining/ratting/whatever. We attack and then locals drop overwhelming force on us. Like carriers and such. And they don’t even do it properly so they unable to catch any of us.  
As result no fight happened. No kills produced. No fun.  
This will not get “gf” from me.

Other case: we get baited and ambushed. This _will_ get “gf”. Because people actually _played_ the game and won us strategically.

Another case is when we see that there is no reason to engage and we find a way out. In this case we might write “gf” as sign that we consider the party over.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/68 "2018-02-14T19:47:52Z")

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Supposedly it’s ‘sportsmanship’…

But typically it’s used more Harvey Weinstein after each of his encounters “gf gf gf”…

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**Author:** ![Alpha\_Slow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alpha_slow/32/44019_2.png) [@Alpha\_Slow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alpha_Slow)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/69 "2018-02-14T19:49:40Z")

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When you see “gf” in EVE, it is most commonly used in mockery as there are so few real good fights there are.

EVE is the pvpmmorpg for the people who got ■■■■ on in skill-based pvp games and they don’t want a good fight.

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/70 "2018-02-14T19:53:24Z")

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I have to ask… If so many are so bitter over fights, GF, and EVE, why are you all still here?

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**Author:** ![Alpha\_Slow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alpha_slow/32/44019_2.png) [@Alpha\_Slow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alpha_Slow)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/71 "2018-02-14T20:05:25Z")

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As for me, I’m a full loot pvp aficionado and i’ve been waiting for EVE to get good enough for me to actually play it for years. Unfortunately, the game just seems to get worse. IMO The game was much better when suicide ganking was more expensive and thus reserved for select targets rather than how it is now where weakling players use it to grief random newbs because they can and it costs them next to nothing.

Considering the lack of options players have in pvp, its a joke of a game from my perspective.

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/72 "2018-02-14T20:20:08Z")

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So you don’t play and from the sounds of it, are still waiting to play if it ever gets good enough, but you know ganking is too common place…

🤔

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/73 "2018-02-14T20:26:19Z")

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Someday, I hope you find a game to play.

> [@Alpha\_Slow](#):
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> …i’ve been waiting for EVE to get good enough for me to actually play it for years.

But you will hang out here on the forums of a game you don’t play and ■■■■■ about it, trying to change the game _ **you don’t play** _ to something tickles your fancy, and to hell with anyone else that currently plays the game?

> It is also the reason you probably live on these forums instead of having a real social life.  
> How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you live on these forums making a fool of yourself daily?  
> Dude has serious mental problems as does everyone who spends that much time on the forums of a video game.  
> Or get a life. Judging by how much time you spend living on these forums, you’ve squandered it. … How pathetic can you get, really?  
> I like how you are unable to see something that is right in front of your face. It is no wonder you live on these forums.

You, chief, embody the concept of an entitled whiner. The above quotes (all yours) also paint you as being a manipulative hypocrite. Anyone can have two thoughts about things - we’re all human after all - but it’s like you’re trying to make this into an art-form…

The other possibility is that you’re unhinged.

So, really, I do hope you find a game that you enjoy playing - something other than “Troll a Game I Don’t Play”.

EA owns that game… go troll there.

Or get some help - whichever works.

–Concerned Gadget

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/74 "2018-02-14T21:43:50Z")

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Just ignore this guy and flag him

– Pragmatic Ima

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/75 "2018-02-14T22:32:42Z")

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> [@Ranzabar](#):
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> Eve is Gluten Free

But high in salt

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/76 "2018-02-15T00:51:48Z")

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> [@Alpha\_Slow](#):
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> When you see “gf” in EVE, it is most commonly used in mockery as there are so few real good fights there are.
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> EVE is the pvpmmorpg for the people who got ■■■■ on in skill-based pvp games and they don’t want a good fight.

[If you’re struggling to find ‘real’ fights, it’s only because you’re not looking for them.](https://youtu.be/1woKNP9bwUE)

[As for having no skill in other games…](https://youtu.be/q67n29B14O4)

I see people are still committed to the same 5+ year old ‘complaints’ about the game, while somehow just not getting that everything here is working as intended. There is nothing stopping any of you from making some friend, getting a group together, and forming a counter-fleet to take the gatecampers to task. And if they run away, take over their system and start gatecamping yourselves to make sure they never return.

Or are you the type that prefers to play an MMO like this one completely solo? Cuz, that would be entirely on you. Entirely.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/78 "2018-02-15T02:41:19Z")

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Of course, dear.  
Let it all out.

–Consoling Gadget

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/80 "2018-02-15T02:42:19Z")

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'k.

–Gadget says, gf

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/81 "2018-02-15T03:08:49Z")

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There are a lot more people here from Reddit than I remember.

😉

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-gf-in-this-game/56718/82 "2018-02-15T08:33:06Z")

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> [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](#):
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> So you don’t play and from the sounds of it, are still waiting to play if it ever gets good enough, but you know ganking is too common place…

Well, I don’t log into the game nowhere near as much as I use to do and yeah, I’m waiting for CCP to hopefully make the game better. Quite honestly, Suicide Ganking is all too commonplace in the game now.

Hell, I was cruising on Auto Pilot through High Sec in my Loki talking in chat channels when a couple of T1 Cruisers with Drones decided to gank my ship. I noticed my shields taking damage so I quickly activated my Invul Field for +75% Omni resists and my double amplified Shield Booster for over 900 HP/s and watched them get Concorded while I finished slowboating to the gate.

Took me a couple of minutes to return back to that system where I asked them in Local chat why they even attempted that. Their reply was that they were bored and wanted to see if they could pull it off. I then said ‘You want PvP, I’m here now, let’s do it.’ Their reply was ‘Naw, we got other targets to gank’.

So that’s the problem with Eve, bored players not caring enough to actually make a plan that will work and then consequently not even working their original plan in the first place.

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