# What's up with piracy and Security Status now?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 22, 2024, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599 "2024-06-22T09:41:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kabanito\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kabanito_sotken/32/425068_2.png) [@Kabanito\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kabanito_Sotken)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/1 "2024-06-22T09:41:54Z")

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I haven’t played in over a year. Came back and started pirating (In systems with low security (0.1-0.4)).  
SS is dropping very fast compared to what it used to be.  
I don’t kill white capsules.  
If you raise SS often with tags, it’s a bit expensive.  
Is it really more expensive to pirate now than it used to be? Or maybe there are new ways to get around it?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/2 "2024-06-22T10:26:17Z")

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> [@Kabanito\_Sotken](#):
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> SS is dropping very fast compared to what it used to be.

Compared to when?

I don’t think the security status change equation has changed often, if at all.

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**Author:** ![Kabanito\_Sotken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kabanito_sotken/32/425068_2.png) [@Kabanito\_Sotken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kabanito_Sotken)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/3 "2024-06-22T10:34:01Z")

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I haven’t played in over a year.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/4 "2024-06-22T11:20:03Z")

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Pirating is bad. But if you really want fun, do it with a mining barge.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/b/34b940bf1e5ac94a9f4704cfae53f864680bda58.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/5 "2024-06-22T21:31:25Z")

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Just don’t shoot the pod!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/6 "2024-06-22T21:37:19Z")

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You mean like @LordOdysseus ?

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/7 "2024-06-22T22:15:41Z")

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This.

Alternatively, you can go to nullsec or wormholes where it doesn’t matter. Another option if you want to stick to lowsec is FW, this will reduce the number of pods that will give you a secstatus hit, since war targets don’t give a penalty.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/8 "2024-06-22T22:35:48Z")

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Had they never shot a pod before?

Might be a good trend to follow!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/9 "2024-06-22T22:45:14Z")

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Never 🤒

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/3/d/a3d3eef7d20b537f5732903ad270a8df108e9318.png)

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/10 "2024-06-23T00:03:30Z")

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I feel that you’re starting to be a little clingy fang!

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/11 "2024-06-23T06:00:58Z")

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Lol @Zaera_Keena is shooting rats!

🤭 😏 😈

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/12 "2024-06-23T10:53:58Z")

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ofcourse

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/13 "2024-06-24T10:48:21Z")

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> [@Kabanito\_Sotken](#):
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> If you raise SS often with tags, it’s a bit expensive.  
> Is it really more expensive to pirate now than it used to be? Or maybe there are new ways to get around it?

There’s a formula that involves the use of chicken entrails, tea leaves, and the security status of both yourself and the other player. The higher the status of the other player, the more security status you lose, and other factors. I was on 11 kills two days ago and lost 1.3 security status…on the other hand I was on 18 kills last night and lost just 0.2 security status.

Clone soldier tags _are_ more expensive than they used to be…around 40m ISK now when they used to be 25-30m a year or so ago. The only other solution is ratting, especially in lowsec, which will restore your status. Ratting in highsec does so too but takes ages.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/14 "2024-06-24T20:10:21Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> involves the use of chicken entrails, tea leaves,

Yes, I have heard of this voodoo ritual to improve sec status, involves the sacrifice of a nooby miner and the blood of a Frostpacker.

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/15 "2024-06-27T02:33:25Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> The only other solution is ratting, especially in lowsec, which will restore your status. Ratting in highsec does so too but takes ages.

Incursions rat BS with Fast Talk L5 skill gives you the fastest sec status gains that I knew of. Not sure if its changed since. Possibly some of the capital spawns might now not to sure as I havent tried to regain sec in a long time that way.

Hmm never knew it was now about your sec status vs your targets thats a change for me from the days of flat sec status hits. Thanx for the chance to look it up and learn something new.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/whats-up-with-piracy-and-security-status-now/453599/16 "2024-09-25T02:33:40Z")

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