# When are POS Structures and Arrays/Batteries going to removed/reimbursed? **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [May 16, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470 "2020-05-16T02:48:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dray\_Cil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dray_cil/32/418073_2.png) [@Dray\_Cil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dray_Cil)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/1 "2020-05-16T02:48:04Z")
Recently returned after 5 years. Got a few POS towers and a TON of arrays and weapon batteries and all that other junk needed for a decent POS. I heard they were getting rid of them and obviously right now they won’t sell. Has anyone heard word of when and if we will get reimbursed for them? I sure could use the ISK having returned and re-buying things like insurance for my ships and updated modules. Dray Cil ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/2 "2020-05-16T02:50:02Z")
Maybe in another 5-10 years. Or maybe never. ---
**Author:** ![Dray\_Cil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dray_cil/32/418073_2.png) [@Dray\_Cil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dray_Cil)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/3 "2020-05-16T02:51:37Z")
Well if it’s going to take that long, they would still be useful in certain situations. But I’m not going to go thru the trouble of setting one up when next month they remove them all. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/4 "2020-05-16T02:52:31Z")
I personally guarantee it will not be next month. It is 1000 to 1 that it could be this year even. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/5 "2020-05-16T07:33:32Z")
Right now, the main drawback to not removing POS is maintaining the legacy code and they still have some functionality as forward operating bases. I think it’s a safe bet that they will be removed before the DX12 conversion and that is expected this year. Reimbursement may not be in the form of ISK - 100% reprocessing is more likely. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/6 "2020-05-16T09:42:13Z")
They’re still actively used, so I’m not sure they’ll get removed. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/7 "2020-05-16T15:55:54Z")
They are capable of things Upwell POSes that by their very nature are unable to do and won’t be able to do unless new structures are introduced. I await S-sized Upwell structures 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/8 "2020-05-16T16:59:13Z")
I want small citadels SO bad 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/9 "2020-05-16T17:06:02Z")
Cit-mini doesn’t have tether, only has one reinforcement cycle, and can only be anchored on moons, but doesn’t show up on map!?!?!?!?!?!? I am soooooo fine with that. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/10 "2020-05-17T08:52:20Z")
I still miss my small POS. It was the perfect tool for a solo industrialist. Flexible: you could easily pause a lab and online the reprocessing array for a few minutes when needed - and decide which assembly arrays to online based on what you needed to build. Portable: Anchoring and unanchoring took 15 minutes and you could use a blockade runner to move it. Inexpensive: My Raitaru cost 5 times as much to build, consumes nearly 3 times as much fuel and is neither portable or flexible. However, the world changed, my options were adapt or die, and I chose to adapt! ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/11 "2020-05-17T12:39:01Z")
Not trolling, but why can’t you still use your small POS? ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/12 "2020-05-17T14:36:07Z")
I can use the tower but the labs and assembly arrays no longer work - or maybe they work but no longer get bonuses, I can’t remember - it’s over 3 years since I built the Raitaru! ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/13 "2020-05-17T17:36:45Z")
Whenever CCP introduces a feature to Upwell POSes, they disable the corresponding feature on CT POSes. They’ve said this explicitly and have consistently done so. As such, CT POSes’s capabilities have been decremented into oblivion, but there are plenty of things they can still do that Upwell POSes can’t do and that existing structures (cits/ECs/refs/flex) will never be able to do… at least not the M+ sized ones 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cygnet\_Lythanea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnet_lythanea/32/270813_2.png) [@Cygnet\_Lythanea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnet_Lythanea)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/14 "2020-06-07T14:12:37Z")
There was a rumor that POS owners would get something when the POS were removed, because cost for faction POS was vastly greater than the value of materials that you could get. I’m figuring some sort of skin for upwells or something. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/15 "2020-06-07T14:26:26Z")
Or perhaps they will get a free mystery code. ---
**Author:** ![Dray\_Cil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dray_cil/32/418073_2.png) [@Dray\_Cil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dray_Cil)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/16 "2020-06-08T08:41:18Z")
Yeah, I got a Medium Sansha Tower. Was not easy to get. At least 5 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/17 "2020-06-08T10:44:45Z")
Hope that include faction turrets and the special assemblies and arrays. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/18 "2020-07-16T05:19:43Z")
I hope CCP realize that POS still have a place in wormhole development/settlement, specially when you have to get building supplies in for structure through C1 and C2 holes. For starting corps in null and wormholes POS are a great starting point. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/19 "2020-07-16T18:35:09Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > I hope CCP realize that POS still have a place in wormhole development/settlement It may be better for CCP to roll out S-Sized Upwell structures to address this niche than to rely on Old-style CT “Stick” POSes. One defining property (among other heavy limitations from M-sized): it can’t be seen on map (though it can be picked up on D-Scan) ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470/20 "2020-07-16T19:36:54Z")
But you loose the **Death Sphere** POS, which are a great safe zone for anyone. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-are-pos-structures-and-arrays-batteries-going-to-removed-reimbursed/241470.md?page=2)