# When hope dies: my fears on the development direction of the game **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 13, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067 "2021-05-13T00:12:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/21 "2021-05-13T03:01:31Z")
people looove to be in a massive blocks they want to have better payers protecting them they also like to be told what to do thinking and having imagination is a waste of energy at this pace i predict that in the future EVE will be all the other players shooting me ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/22 "2021-05-13T03:04:39Z")
> [@Nascent3ch0](#): > > don’t know if I’ll survive the destruction of much more of my gameplay What is it you can’t do now that you could before? Your OP is so vague. Specifics, please. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/23 "2021-05-13T03:06:06Z")
You want to be depressed, read Xeux’s Bio, that was chilling… ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/24 "2021-05-13T03:06:29Z")
in game bio? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/25 "2021-05-13T03:10:53Z")
Yes. She captured my thoughts about the the game. Don’t tell her, she doesn’t like me! 😆 But in game or in rl, if I had to have someone to cover my back in a fight, it’s the troll’s who I want behind me. At least they fight… ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/26 "2021-05-13T03:11:56Z")
will read , i love to be depressed 🤣 thats a surprise , ms @Xeux appears to be such a happy and up·lift person … edit: read it its noice depression level 6/10 its similar to a Brazilian song ![Captura de Tela 2021-05-13 às 00.18.42](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/4/b/14b60b556e220835ee9da18d5c4dd0100f12d8a8.png) im kinda of a doomer nowadays ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/27 "2021-05-13T03:13:49Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > appears to be such a happy and up·lift person 🦹‍♀️ 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/28 "2021-05-13T03:22:34Z")
I like my bio, it drives the Euro’s nuts cuz they don’t know the song! ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/29 "2021-05-13T03:24:48Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I like my bio, it drives the Euro’s nuts cuz they don’t know the song! i had a similar problem my bio is a motorhead song one day someone said your bio is a disgrace and started to preach me lol [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/4/044073989f27d526a55c997d352daedfea45207e.jpeg "Motorhead - Orgasmatron") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnSaNfG9tV4) will look at yours , or post the song 😃 edit: i guess the part that says "my name is called religion sadistic sacred whore " is not popular with the amarr crowd 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/30 "2021-05-13T03:36:23Z")
“Shrink, I want to kill. I mean,… I wanna,… I wanna kill! KILL! I wanna,… I wanna see… I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL.” And I started jumpin up and down yelling, “KILL KILL” and he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, “KILL! KILL!” As for a song… [Panic! At The Disco: Say Amen (Saturday Night) [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVXauWq9Hwg) I miss Saturday night… (sigh) But I never give up! [The Struts - Could Have Been Me (Official Music Video) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhk9K_mviE) ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/31 "2021-05-13T04:06:38Z")
You may now go and sit on the Group W bench and play with the pencils. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/32 "2021-05-13T04:12:39Z")
I took the test on a hit of acid, snorting coke, smoking pot and crushing the beer can as I got there. I was doing good till the coke wore off. Only got an 88… 😬 Edit; Yes, so now you all know how stupid I am. ---
**Author:** ![Kaori\_Sato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaori_sato/32/271644_2.png) [@Kaori\_Sato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaori_Sato)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/33 "2021-05-13T05:09:24Z")
While not sunshine and ice cream…this game ain’t omfg far gone. I mean they could be blizzard. Where an increasing number of peeps are excited about their new coming out as pre release may 18 then live june 1st game. That new game has the working title of The Burning Crusade. lol. For all those who said GB2 wow never being theres this is a more than decade old expac getting a real rerun on new dedicated servers. More hype about a reboot that where they are taking retail wow with shadowlands for some. So as long as ccp doesn’t dangle a reboot…they should be good lol. People may like the reboot more. ---
**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/34 "2021-05-13T05:30:24Z")
> [@Fale\_Einn](#): > > It starts to seem like there’s someone at CCP actively sabotaging Eve because they are disgruntled or something. Stinky of conspiracy theory trash as it is, somehow seems probable, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/35 "2021-05-13T05:32:39Z")
“never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity” ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/36 "2021-05-13T05:35:09Z")
> [@Kaori\_Sato](#): > > So as long as ccp doesn’t dangle a reboot…they should be good lol. People may like the reboot more. They’ll **never** do this because in the case of WoW, an old expansion reboot allows players to revisit interesting game lore and raid content that became irrelevant with new releases, but in the case of EVE, the underlying content hasn’t really changed since the game came out (Guristas pirates are still Guristas pirates, and we still sit on gates and camp pipes with interdictors, etc.), so a reboot would be like an implicit acknowledgement that their development track and policies have failed over the years. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/37 "2021-05-13T05:37:08Z")
that said ill not complain if they go back before the terrible triglavian invasion content ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/38 "2021-05-13T05:42:29Z")
So the OP is upset because of something? They didn’t really explain what they were upset about, so I don’t know if I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Kaori\_Sato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaori_sato/32/271644_2.png) [@Kaori\_Sato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaori_Sato)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/39 "2021-05-13T06:16:04Z")
Part of me would like to see AOE DD back again. If only to make 1DQ interesting. Server load… titan AOE DD party…lag fixed once the server cleans out 1000+ dead ships. Did wonders for my first home in scalding pass. Some crew was just that bored they did this. not even in our war. They just liked busting our alliance leader’s balls. Well if she had them. ---
**Author:** ![Shea\_Tzestu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shea_tzestu/32/263279_2.png) [@Shea\_Tzestu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shea_Tzestu)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067/40 "2021-05-13T07:54:55Z")
From what I’ve heard from him CCP Rattati is not someone versed in game theory but this maybe because he is holding his cards close to his chest. Personally I think he might have no idea what he is doing & is just treading water so as not to get Falcon punched out of CCP. I have no faith that Eve will have compelling or competitive game theory systems implemented because of his position in the company. The 'verse is too shallow for my liking and is now akin to simple casino games. Eve used to be a MMO famous for having the smartest player base, Eve today is now tailored for the ‘‘I am very smart’’ player base. The verse is shallow the game systems are all an offshoot of the n+1 mechanic. PVE is designed to be botted or at the very best mass multi boxed, yet again n+1. This MMO in my honest opinion has found its place and its for the ‘‘I am very smart’’ cringe crowd. I only dare tip my toes in once in a while. It lost its emergent game play philosophy after Incarna & has been downhill since then. I understand that this game needs to be competitively monetised but meh, too much dumbing down now, tbh. I’d look forward playing a MMO designed by Hilmar without thought to monetisation. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-hope-dies-my-fears-on-the-development-direction-of-the-game/311067.md?page=3)