# When will these Trivialturds be leaving New Eden? :psyccp: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve\ **Created:** [September 2, 2020, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373 "2020-09-02T10:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Character\_Bazaar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/character_bazaar/32/303701_2.png) [@Character\_Bazaar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Character_Bazaar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/144 "2020-10-11T19:50:19Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Why are the Triglavian going after the non Blue Star systems when Scope told us that they are only interested in Blue star systems. **Clearly, Scope has been infiltrated…** ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/145 "2020-10-11T20:30:36Z")
Why would you assume Scope has the final word on what the Triglavians are interested in? My understanding since fairly early in the process was that blue stars were what they would harvest, but other type systems could also be invaded. You might want to check threads like this one if you’re interested in the lore/speculation on it: > [@Triglavian foothold systems: Patterns, Mysteries and Blue Stars](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-foothold-systems-patterns-mysteries-and-blue-stars/179473): > > Triglavian foothold systems: Patterns and mysteries It now coming up to the end of the second month of the Triglavian invasion and there are still more questions than answers. I decided at an early stage to follow the movements of the invasions and see if I could find any patterns that may help in the defence of New Eden. What I have found is interesting if slightly baffling. [I have used my recordings and other data to produce a report which can be found here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S4N0pBC92LSCQ2hh8AIwQvTWs9SHrbjJLksbW-rR0r8/edit?usp=sharing) I won’t regurgitate the entire re… ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/146 "2020-10-11T21:27:59Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Trying to replace losses is good. EVE functions because people lose stuff and get new stuff. The economy ceases to function without losses, and there is no further point in playing if you never suffer any losses because the game is too easy. Still you have evaded my question. Or skipped some part of it. The full question is: are you saying that trying to replace losses is good for those affected? ---
**Author:** ![Col\_Nordhammar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/col_nordhammar/32/233829_2.png) [@Col\_Nordhammar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Col_Nordhammar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/147 "2020-10-11T22:20:30Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > The full question is: are you saying that trying to replace losses is good for those affected? You know what is not good for people? Sitting and accumulating fictional space currency with no purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/148 "2020-10-11T23:23:09Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > The full question is: are you saying that trying to replace losses is good for those affected? What part of “trying to replace losses is good” do you not understand? I think I made it very clear that this applies to everyone in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/149 "2020-10-12T00:08:28Z")
Anyone loosing ships to Trig or Edencom npc fleets made a mistake. First by not looking at the autonavigator plotted route. Second by not taking notice of the warning CCP has put as a pop-up when about to jump into one of these systems. As for content. This is new content that has brought in new factions, lore and NPCAI features. The NPC AI alone could dynamically change how current faction warfare and incursions will work in the future, where NPC fleets chase down enemy npc fleets and players alike in system instead of just spawning in one location and only respond if attacked. The invasion in itself has killed the Amarr-Jita market run monopoly over the other three trade hubs, and forced players to reopen the old silk road trade route, which long term with the mineral reallocation make the economics of eve better for all and not large alliances solely. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/150 "2020-10-12T04:56:53Z")
Because of the new replies, o/ Just tested a 1.0 Trig invasion system to see how to grain Edencom rep This Character has zero kill rights and was not suspect yet players with positive trig status can freely attack yet not blue limited engagement nor are they flagged suspect or criminal. [https://zkillboard.com/kill/87809674/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/87809674/) The way I see is that any Final Liminality Triglavian controlled system works like Nulsec -0.2 and good to know to now I must avoid those systems. Currently sitting with 0.0 Edencom with -0.0 Trigavian Collective. ![trigs](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/2/b2a6e2b4688652f79601eede286bdb33c573999e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Glathull](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glathull/32/234710_2.png) [@Glathull](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glathull)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/151 "2020-10-13T08:05:34Z")
I’ve defended some controversial technical choices that CCP has made over the years, but this one really is incredibly forking shirt for brains. This is exactly the kind of thing that happens when you get developers trying to do in code what should be managed by the database. It’s Big Oof Technology, and it’s hard to recover from once it’s been entrenched. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/152 "2020-10-13T14:05:41Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > The way I see is that any Final Liminality Triglavian controlled system works like Nulsec -0.2 That would be because Sakenta dropped from 1.0 sec to -0.2 sec. You can see the actual sec rating of all the Final Lim systems at [https://kybernaut.space/invasions](https://kybernaut.space/invasions) . ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/153 "2020-10-14T20:31:36Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > I think I made it very clear that this applies to everyone in EVE. Ah, now I see it. I made a mistake thinking that your idea has some merit. Now when I reread the original quote I see the same “my style of playing is the only correct one” and that’s it. Sorry for bothering ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/154 "2020-10-14T20:44:31Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > Anyone loosing ships to Trig or Edencom npc fleets made a mistake. > > First by not looking at the autonavigator plotted route. > > Second by not taking notice of the warning CCP has put as a pop-up when about to jump into one of these systems. … and all this is relevant to my quote because? > [@DragoFire](#): > > As for content. This is new content that has brought in new factions, lore and NPCAI features. > The NPC AI alone could dynamically change how current faction warfare and incursions will work in the future, where NPC fleets chase down enemy npc fleets and players alike in system instead of just spawning in one location and only respond if attacked. I can agree here. However, knowing CCP for 11 years I would rather wait for something to be actually implemented before being excited. They have too long list of half-baked and forgotten features… > [@DragoFire](#): > > The invasion in itself has killed the Amarr-Jita market run monopoly over the other three trade hubs, and forced players to reopen the old silk road trade route, which long term with the mineral reallocation make the economics of eve better for all and not large alliances solely. One small detail: it wasn’t “invasion”. It was CCPs decision to mark these systems to be “invaded”. And they have means to get the state they want by tuning some numbers in their “invasion” mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/155 "2020-10-14T20:55:03Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > Now when I reread the original quote I see the same “my style of playing is the only correct one” and that’s it. Sorry, but “I don’t ever want to lose anything” is not a valid play style. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/157 "2020-10-14T21:45:45Z")
I do believe that there were more than a few Capsuleers who were quite capable in performing such feats of greatness with these Triglavian Collective. A moment of recognition for those players o7 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/159 "2020-10-15T09:04:18Z")
So then why play one of the few games where permanent loss of things is a key selling point and not a game where its literally impossible to lose anything? Like Destiny 2 Man, Im really becoming a shill for Bungie these days. But their Halloween Festival is fun, have to say, and you can get all the Triglavian clothes you want there. Its almost like thats where CCP got the idea… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Bahamut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_bahamut/32/411846_2.png) [@ISD\_Bahamut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Bahamut)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/160 "2020-10-15T18:47:27Z")
Removed a couple of posts for being off-topic as per the rules… > 1.Specifically restricted conduct. > > The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. > > In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: > > ``` > Trolling > Flaming > Ranting > Personal Attacks > Harassment > Doxxing > Racism & Discrimination > Hate Speech > Sexism > Spamming > Bumping > Off-Topic Posting > Pyramid Quoting > Rumor Mongering > New Player Bashing > Impersonation > Advertising > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/161 "2020-10-15T22:35:18Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > One small detail: it wasn’t “invasion”. It was CCPs decision to mark these systems to be “invaded”. And they have means to get the state they want by tuning some numbers in their “invasion” mechanics. True, but it was players that made it happen, if edencom had brought more forces to that fight that route would still be open and protected by guns target towers, but sadly for edencom and the carebears it didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/162 "2020-10-17T12:36:56Z")
Thanks for agreeing ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/163 "2020-10-17T12:39:51Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > True, but it was players that made it happen, if edencom had brought more forces to that fight that route would still be open and protected by guns target towers, but sadly for edencom and the carebears it didn’t happen. There was quote in the very this thread from one of CCP Team. And the person had particularly mentioned Narja and that they wanted this system to be flipped. Do you really think players could affect this decision? I’m pretty sure if nobody ever came to that system NPC would take it _somehow_. ---
**Author:** ![Aurys\_Rivelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aurys_rivelle/32/243375_2.png) [@Aurys\_Rivelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aurys_Rivelle)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/164 "2020-10-17T13:20:02Z")
Just accept it… Although I don’t really like the triggs I’m neutral. Now with the permanent 27 systems in Pochven controlled by them you can’t change anything. ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373/165 "2020-10-17T14:15:57Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > There was quote in the very this thread from one of CCP Team. And the person had particularly mentioned Narja and that they wanted this system to be flipped. That was not the case at all, the part you seem to have misunderstood: [quote=] However, we did look at what’s in what bucket and ensure systems that were very high profile on one server but not the other (like Niarja) are decided by the server that would care about it more. [/quote] So the result of the fight for Niarja that took place on Tranquility was the result written to the DB (which Tranquility & Serenity use), because on Tranquility Niarja is a “high profile” system and on Serenity it is not. It was not CCPs decision to force this result one way or the other, only to select the result of the ‘high profile systems’ and ensure they were written to the DB. > [@March\_rabbit](#): > > I’m pretty sure if nobody ever came to that system NPC would take it _somehow_. This is correct, had nobody shown up the Edencom NPCs would have taken it for sure, as the Amarr Edencom NPCs could easily handle the Triglavian NPCs. Regards, Cypr3ss. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-will-these-trivialturds-be-leaving-new-eden/264373.md?page=9)