# Where are new characters getting killed? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** alpha, pvp\ **Created:** [February 27, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007 "2018-02-27T02:08:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/201 "2018-03-01T20:43:09Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Posts: > 192 > 187 > 185 > 182 > 172 > 168 > 163 > 159 > > And the list goes on. > > Stop trolling Wtf is that even supposed to mean? 😃 RNG list of numbers? And ooooh, the irony. Dom is calling me a troll! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/202 "2018-03-01T20:43:26Z")
Because its irrelevant to the data that was posted ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/203 "2018-03-01T20:44:05Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Because its irrelevant to the data that was posted Wtf are your posted data numbers relevant to? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/204 "2018-03-01T20:44:29Z")
They’re your post numbers… –Observant Gadget ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/205 "2018-03-01T20:44:37Z")
Dude you really are ignoring the meat of this here. It is pointless to base what you feel, think, or believe on an opinion or motive when you have data that contradicts those beliefs. It is not perfect data, but it is probably the best we will ever get. So what I am saying is that I can say that those are probably all new alts but it would be an assumption. Assumptions are pointless in this discussion. Do you understand that? Please move on. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/206 "2018-03-01T20:44:59Z")
What numbers have I posted? Idk what ■■■■ you’re on but you need to quit lol ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/207 "2018-03-01T20:45:05Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > They’re your post numbers… > > –Observant Gadget Thanks. And then? Guy listed my post numbers? So what? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/208 "2018-03-01T20:46:14Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > What numbers have I posted? > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > 192 > > 187 > > 185 > > 182 > > 172 > > 168 > > 163 > > 159 Those numbers? Are they not numbers to you? You posted them yourself, and dont know what numbers you posted? Explain that 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EveDataRules](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evedatarules/32/52946_2.png) [@EveDataRules](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EveDataRules)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/209 "2018-03-01T20:46:53Z")
@Dom_Arkaral unfortunately I do not have a reddit account. I may also look at some other slices such as corp history of early characters to see if any trends popout. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/210 "2018-03-01T20:48:23Z")
Filtering cynos out is probably a good one too. The more refined this gets everyone will find that the general point still stands. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/211 "2018-03-01T20:50:36Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Its either majority of true new players, or alt character of extant players. > > What part of that do you not compute? Sure, but how are you going to determine this from the data at hand? What part of _this_ do you not compute. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If it is so meaningless, then why not answer it, even as conjecture? Because the answer is just an expression of one’s beliefs. You might say it is alts, another might say it is new players…but there is no way to settle the difference. Further, it could be that the break down is 50.2%/49.8%…which is so close to equal who cares. Seriously, you are arguing over people saying, “We can’t tell given the data we have…so why bother?” > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Bookmarked Indeed. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > As a superset it still contains new players and the title is perfectly fine. Indeed. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > It even trumps CCP data and other data presented by players. No matter what is presented and in what context, people that don’t like it will argue against it. Yeah, belief persistence is a very strong bias to overcome. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Seriously, this is getting quite hilarious how hard some of you are fighting such a simple question. To give you an idea how meaningless this is, you can answer for me Salvos. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/212 "2018-03-01T20:50:41Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > Filtering cynos out is probably a good one too. lol Cyno alts are integrally a NS “new character” factor. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/213 "2018-03-01T20:51:29Z")
They’re posts that answered your question They’re what everyone here has said since you reposted your question about 15 times ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/214 "2018-03-01T20:51:51Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > They’re posts that answered your question Ok. Show me 3. OR Show me one of yours that did. (Btw: Its “There are” not, “They’re”) ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/215 "2018-03-01T20:53:01Z")
How about you just stop. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/217 "2018-03-01T20:54:12Z")
I don’t even know what to post right now Its like you forget every single thing people said Stop thinking that were a bunch of idiots when you can’t even comprehend the simple statements that people make Get out ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/219 "2018-03-01T20:54:51Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Get out You still didnt deliver lol. Gtfo yourself. You cant even answer a simple question. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/220 "2018-03-01T20:56:25Z")
Don’t make me pull this shuttle over… –Gadget will ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/221 "2018-03-01T20:56:47Z")
for the 8th time I don’t have to answer 🙂 Also, miner calm down ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/222 "2018-03-01T20:57:13Z")
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