# Where are new characters getting killed? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** alpha, pvp\ **Created:** [February 27, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007 "2018-02-27T02:08:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/223 "2018-03-01T20:59:54Z")
Shut up anslo. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/224 "2018-03-01T21:00:06Z")
Look at these guys 😃 Do you still not see it? ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/225 "2018-03-01T21:00:46Z")
So I’m convimced all your posts are spam. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/226 "2018-03-01T21:00:54Z")
A perfectly fine thread with somebody looking at the actual data going right down the crapper… Seriously Salvos just stop. Nobody cares enough to answer the question. And the reason for that is that the data we currently have visibility to won’t let us answer this question definitively. Removing “new characters” that died in cyno ships might help eliminate some of the alt accounts, but not all. Right now the question cannot be answered accurately. Further, suppose people do answer this…so what? What does that tell us other than where people’s inital beliefs are at. That helps with what how? Who cares if Scipio says, “They majority are alts” and Then Dom says, “The majority are true new players”. What exactly does this accomplish? As far as I can see the answer is, _“Nothing.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/227 "2018-03-01T21:01:04Z")
What’s anslo? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/228 "2018-03-01T21:01:05Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Cyno alts are integrally a NS “new character” factor. How much of a factor? ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/230 "2018-03-01T21:03:15Z")
[https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/392195/](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/392195/) ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/231 "2018-03-01T21:05:48Z")
Ditto…also your choices define your experience. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/232 "2018-03-01T21:13:56Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > Who cares if Scipio says, “They majority are alts” and Then Dom says, “The majority are true new players” Neither of them answered, yet they presumed to attack me. Smell the coffee. bro. You are barking up the wrong tree. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/233 "2018-03-01T21:17:26Z")
Hey twerp this entire thread is,people answering your question…it is you who ia the shitposter ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/234 "2018-03-01T21:17:48Z")
Answering your question literally has no impact on factual data. My answer to your question is: I don’t know. Is that sufficient for you or are you just wanting to encourage posting based on what we feel to be true? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/235 "2018-03-01T21:17:55Z")
You have to trust the tree’s guts tho ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/236 "2018-03-01T21:25:27Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Neither of them answered, yet they presumed to attack me. > > Smell the coffee. bro. > > You are barking up the wrong tree. For someone so butthurt about people not answering your meaningless question you can’t even answer a question about why answering your question is in any way useful… Let that sink in for a bit. > [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > Is that sufficient for you or are you just wanting to encourage posting based on what we feel to be true? No and you are a bad person because _reasons_. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/237 "2018-03-01T21:29:38Z")
_cough cough_ > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Ib4 some carebear apologist will make the point that he can completely disregard the statistic for some made up reason and continue to pretend that ganking is an issue for new players. Hail Nostrekyoudamus ---
**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/238 "2018-03-01T21:32:42Z")
Savage 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/239 "2018-03-01T21:34:50Z")
Newordradamus ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/240 "2018-03-01T21:36:55Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Do you think the NS new character attrition stat in the graphs is a result of a majority of genuine new players, or extant player alt new characters. No There, you have an answer. Can you stop now? ---
**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/241 "2018-03-01T21:39:16Z")
@EveDataRules Why did your 7d old data change between the initial post and the update? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/244 "2018-03-01T21:43:18Z")
Lol that moment when Salvos insults someone’s intelligence Keep digging that hole 😉 Edit: Is it that hard for your ego to admit you were wrong all along? ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/246 "2018-03-01T21:46:42Z")
Goes a little further back than that, Anslo found his way into Feyd’s (rip) “The price of heresy” thread\* and proceeded shiteing it up , feyd bless him was trying to get the better of Anslo using whitt and intelligence and it wasn’t working … At all. [So](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/5300115/#post5300115) . This worked and he shut up, for ages. Then Leto ran with it and it became c&p short hand for someone not worth engaging with on any sort of intellectual level at all. \*That thread was gutted of two thirds of it’s posts and almost all of the meaningful content years ago. Would be allowed by today’s rules but not back then. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007.md?page=13)