# Where are new characters getting killed? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** alpha, pvp\ **Created:** [February 27, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007 "2018-02-27T02:08:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/121 "2018-03-01T16:31:49Z")
Only difference is that physical people are easily verifiable Virtual, not so much Inb4 Salvos > I saw that from a mile away > 😂😂😂 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/122 "2018-03-01T16:34:47Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Inb4 Salvos You still havn’t answered my question: “Do you think NS new character attrition is majority genuine new players. or established player alts?” ---
**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/123 "2018-03-01T16:38:36Z")
Kind of. Its more a mix of J. Haidt style dog wagging and poor reasoning. But gut feelings do play their role! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/124 "2018-03-01T16:39:51Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You still havn’t answered my question: > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > I don’t have to answer you. > > And as such, I won’t… Bugger off Kthxbai ---
**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/125 "2018-03-01T16:44:35Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Only difference is that physical people are easily verifiable > > Virtual, not so much Certainly from what we see here. We might disagree wrt CCP. They may not be accurate because they are not precise, but they may still have a good approximate. Players…not so much. Or, their numbers are good by accident rather than methodology. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/126 "2018-03-01T16:49:35Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > The discord channel is a farce at worst, and an attempt to sideline discussion off the The discussion there is fine , the only reason you got nothing from it was your needlessl adversarial combattitivnes\* and general being an ass. You were invited on the strength of your recent posting and the assumption you could have a reasonable discussion without acting the maggot. When the lads pointed out that you were in fact being an ass you promptly threw a hissy and left. If you want me to get the others in here to verify that I will. That discord has been going for over a year now and that was the first time we’ve had any toxicity in there. (not a word I know) ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/127 "2018-03-01T16:56:18Z")
the end of the discussion is simply thus: EVE has risks. you dont get anywhere in this game if you dont take risks. New players need to realise that the moment they do anything like undocking or jumping into another system, joining a corps or whatever… there is a chance that they will die…DEAL WITH IT. ive been playing since 2011. this is my newest character. back then i got blown away almost daily but i didnt quit. i talked to my CEO “why are these guys harrasing me?” he responds with "did you go through that losec system i told you not to? “yes…” i replied. and thats when new bro me years ago realised that my actions define my experience. TO all you new bros…YOUR CHOICES DEFINE YOUR EXPERIANCE. its not the other guys fault you screwed up. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/128 "2018-03-01T16:57:54Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > That discord has been going for over a year now and that was the first time we’ve had any toxicity in there. Thats ■■■■■■■■. I was addressed with toxicity and nonsense right from the start when I entered it. That channel, despite its longevity as you claim, has achieved nothing, and harbors/incubates/defends shitposters like Dom. I dunno why you can’t see the the extant “toxicity” already there. I merely responded to it in equal measure, and then decided the channel is already compromised and just not worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/129 "2018-03-01T17:00:08Z")
If you smell shite everywhere , check your shoes salvos. I thought you were better than this crap. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/130 "2018-03-01T17:00:51Z")
this is beginning to seem more like a personal problem on his part. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/131 "2018-03-01T17:01:21Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > combattitivnes\* > (not a word I know) It is in American English. > **[Thesaurus results for COMBATIVENESS](https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/combativeness)** > > Synonyms for COMBATIVENESS: aggression, aggressiveness, hostility, pugnacity, defiance, belligerence, contentiousness, militance; Antonyms of COMBATIVENESS: pacifism, nonaggression, friendliness, sociability, cordiality, benevolence, geniality,... –Gadget the Maven ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/132 "2018-03-01T17:02:28Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > I thought you were better than this crap. Crap was thrown at me the second I stepped into the channel, even on otherwise benign statements. I dont understand how you dont see how subverted the channel already is. Certain shitposters are “allowed”, but if someone calls them on it and goes at them in equal or greater measure, they are stigmatized. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/133 "2018-03-01T17:03:54Z")
clearly you have issues. i have the perfect solution. cut all ties with them and join a new group. start blocking people in game and mute this post. when people started hating on me way back when i just blocked them and muted them…funny story…i had half my alliance blocked at one point.i i mean if its that much of an issue then just leave it behind you. life is to short to get your panties in a bunch over…lol…video game drama. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/134 "2018-03-01T17:05:07Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > That channel, despite its longevity as you claim, has achieved nothing And what have you achieved? 😉 > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > and harbors/incubates/defends shitposters like Dom. So everyone in there is a shitposter? Nah Everyone is agreeing with each other. And those who disagree still do so respectfully. > [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > I thought you were better than this crap. Yep, same. Hence why I extended the invitation in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/135 "2018-03-01T17:05:28Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Why are you arguing over something that can’t be confirmed even by CCP? > > Let it go… He can’t. Has to salvosh the thread for good. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/136 "2018-03-01T17:06:40Z")
> [@Sebat\_Hadah](#): > > i had half my alliance blocked at one point Must have been pretty quiet at that point 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/137 "2018-03-01T17:07:29Z")
was it ever. all the drama was silenced and i could actually enjoy what i was doing. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/138 "2018-03-01T17:07:30Z")
Same ■■■■ is happening here, now. And still none of the persons I have asked a rational, reasonable question of, has answered it. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/139 "2018-03-01T17:08:22Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Same ■■■■ is happening here, now. > > And still none of the persons I have asked a rational, reasonable question of, has answered it. that or your not being rational. i gave you “the perfect solution”. go make friends somewhere else and stop whining. i mean this is totally pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007/140 "2018-03-01T17:11:42Z")
> [@Sebat\_Hadah](#): > > i gave you “the perfect solution”. go make friends somewhere else and stop whining. i mean this is totally pointless. Yes, it is pointless, because they are here too. Look at the posts above. Ask a regular whom are the top ten shitposters, and you will find consensus not only here, but in their presence in the discord channel as well. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-new-characters-getting-killed/60007.md?page=8)