# Where are the players?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 27, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492 "2021-07-27T03:59:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Luwc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luwc/32/281730_2.png) [@Luwc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luwc)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/61 "2021-07-30T17:53:32Z")

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> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> I’ve seen your type come and go for years and never was it a loss. Sad thing is, unless you payed for this account you’ve been around nearly as long as me but have such a poor attitude toward the game.

I have a poor attitude towards self made victims.  
Not the health of this great game.  
Which was just fine before people constantly cried about the “meanies :(”

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**Author:** ![Nerdsrepublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nerdsrepublic/32/514264_2.png) [@Nerdsrepublic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nerdsrepublic)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/62 "2021-07-30T20:07:49Z")

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If you want to see players, go to Jita and high security.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/63 "2021-07-30T21:59:33Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Correct, being logged online (sitting in stations) is not playing the game.

Ship spinning is playing the game, don’t be such an elitist undocker!

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**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/64 "2021-07-30T22:06:18Z")

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ship spinning has a counter so clearly a part of the game, what’s your high score ?

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**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/65 "2021-07-30T23:14:17Z")

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Clearly it’s sub-100

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/66 "2021-07-30T23:42:42Z")

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Why do they get to have nice things and keep them? Spinning?

**"Stations should have timers while sitting in a ship just like the Cloak change"**

_After 15 mins of sitting and spinning the Ship auto undocks!_

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/67 "2021-07-31T01:11:34Z")

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I know just the place I would go the day that went live 🤣

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/68 "2021-07-31T01:15:30Z")

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> [@Luwc](#):
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> Which was just fine before people constantly cried about the “meanies

You mean the game was just fine BEFORE it launched. People have been complaining about “meanies” for near on my whole Eve career, 17 years.  
Bob, PL/NC, Goons, code, even Test (to name a few) have all been publically named and shamed as “meanies” and most of them thrived on the label.

> [@Luwc](#):
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> Not the health of this great game

Sorry but Eve has not been a “healthy” or “great” game for many years. YOUR game however may well be, there is a difference.

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**Author:** ![Kartaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kartaugh/32/246037_2.png) [@Kartaugh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kartaugh)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/69 "2021-07-31T02:35:13Z")

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I suddenly got the itch to play EvE again, after years of absence.

Then I noticed they are charging me the same 15 dollars that 1st worlders pay, which means I have to pay 80+ of my currency to play for a month.

Literally every single other MMO has adjusted prices for the 3rd world to account for different earning/purchasing power, **except for EvE**.

So, in my case, it’s a financial decision. I can sub to three other MMOs of my choice for the price of 1 EvE account, or get a brand new AAA game for the price of two months of EvE (thanks to Steam also having seen the light years ago and adjusting their prices - again, except for EvE).

If CCP woke up and started charging reasonable prices for my area of the world, I’d probably sub both of my accounts to play again. Since they haven’t done so, and likely won’t ever, then I’ll just stay away.

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**Author:** ![Pozdro\_Tubylcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pozdro_tubylcy/32/265318_2.png) [@Pozdro\_Tubylcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pozdro_Tubylcy)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/71 "2021-07-31T03:09:26Z")

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the same level of absurdity as an adult man playing video games…

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/75 "2021-07-31T03:53:03Z")

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Mines not so good but I met someone who had spun theirs over fifty thousand times, they even had screenshots.  
What pisses me off is I forget who it was and don’t know if I bookmarked the screenshots.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/76 "2021-07-31T03:54:46Z")

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Hopefully it would be the same day bombs were allowed there.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/78 "2021-07-31T04:00:31Z")

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> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> Sorry but Eve has not been a “healthy” or “great” game for many years. YOUR game however may well be, there is a difference.

I don’t know about that, it’s pretty great even if it makes me bitchy at times.  
I accomplish just enough in Eve to know that the next time I stab a toaster with a fork it’s going to turn out different. Then I’m proven wrong and have to try again.  
Anyone who makes a game that feels like that has to know what they are doing.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/79 "2021-07-31T04:00:53Z")

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I found a spot that looks safe to mine today.

 ![Mining-Iinside-Udama](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/c/e/9ce182a8e611be7c10925e178aaedfb6313d9b4b.jpeg)

Anyone wish to come join me?

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/81 "2021-07-31T05:37:08Z")

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edit, there are many active players in New Eden and sometimes we need to go out of or safety zone to find them.

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/82 "2021-07-31T06:12:02Z")

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On fire. Reload…

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/83 "2021-07-31T13:31:53Z")

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Maybe you were so good at finding PVP content you killed them all and won the game?  
Go get yourself a Snickers bar. You deserve it.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/84 "2021-07-31T16:18:37Z")

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> **Where are the players?**

According to some people here, if players aren’t online during PCU, then they’re not counted… 😆

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**Author:** ![Kato\_Szafarchek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kato_szafarchek/32/431271_2.png) [@Kato\_Szafarchek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kato_Szafarchek)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/85 "2021-07-31T21:14:00Z")

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Going back to the OP, I did noticed that wormholes have been increasingly empty over the past couple of years to the point where it is far safer to transport goods with almost reckless abandonment through a wormhole chain of 3-4 systems than to take a calculated risk with recon through a low-sec run. This includes an increasing number of systems with no citadels at all.

I can only speculate as to why this is the case. I know in my own case I was living in a wormhole with a few others and ended up getting evicted, initially by some trashy null bastard with his dozen alts, until we decided to contact a few “friends” and let loose lips mention a citadel that was going to be attacked by a fleet of spider tanked domnis, and it would be such a shame if somebody were to, oh I don’t know, be told when the citadel would be vulnerable to attack. Oh, and the location to the wormhole in question and wouldn’t it be a shame if somebody were to discover this fleet and invite themselves over. The resulting ‘battle’ if you could even call it that, was more of a feast of said potato fleet. Moved with a nullsec group of good fellas and now I just don’t touch the game because there’s been too many annoying changes so I’ll go play one of the many other games I have.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-players/321492/86 "2021-07-31T21:40:17Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> According to some people here, if players aren’t online during PCU, then they’re not counted… 😆

To finish the “…” and complete what they’ve actually been saying - “as part of the PCU”, which is correct.

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