# Where can I found content for newbie 2-5 player fleet?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [May 17, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022 "2022-05-17T22:57:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/21 "2022-05-18T12:41:47Z")

</div>

> [@Barak\_Obrama](#):
>
> What’s current status of FW now?

Fanfest 2022 it was a big thing wasn’t it? A _Coming Soon_ kind of big thing.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/22 "2022-05-18T12:56:36Z")

</div>

> [@Barak\_Obrama](#):
>
> I will say that again, that’s not about learn or not learn PvP. To me, your answer is like when you come to get bike driver license but official throw you away with words: go get truck drive license instead!

You want content, this is the most common, easily findable content in the game.

You’re a starving man, turning up your nose at all the food being offered to you.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![keacte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keacte/32/394151_2.png) [@keacte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/keacte)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/23 "2022-05-18T13:11:26Z")

</div>

> [@Barak\_Obrama](#):
>
> Kindly asking where can we get combat-oriented content for newbies with 2m~5m skillpoints (400k starting skills + referral 1m + capsuleer day’s 450k + 300k for month of daily event) for cruiser/battlecruiser sized ships equipped with T1/T2 modules with semblance of safety?

Drop a bookmark here \> [https://www.ebwf-eve.online/npsicalendar](https://www.ebwf-eve.online/npsicalendar)

& head to discord here \> [F.U.N. INC [EBWF]](https://discord.com/invite/78CS3Aa)

As has been indicated above - loads of content on there periodically you will never have to wait to long for a fleet - and all the FCs will always allow T1 variants etc.

Ofc - there is also Spectre Fleet too - likewise Bombers Bar.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Barak\_Obrama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barak_obrama/32/316306_2.png) [@Barak\_Obrama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barak_Obrama)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/24 "2022-05-18T13:33:44Z")

</div>

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
>
> You want content, this is the most common, easily findable content in the game.
> 
> You’re a starving man, turning up your nose at all the food being offered to you.

Correction: I want PvE content.

I am a healthy man who want to try some veggies. I can’t find restaurant with affordable prices to eat greens and come to the guru place to ask for advice. And was sent to the steak house instead.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/25 "2022-05-18T13:41:07Z")

</div>

> [@Barak\_Obrama](#):
>
> Correction: I want PvE content.
> 
> I am a healthy man who want to try some veggies. I can’t find restaurant with affordable prices to eat greens and come to the guru place to ask for advice. And was sent to the steak house instead.

This is a PvP game. You’ve turned up your nose at most of the PvE content that’s available. Try something else. You might even like it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/26 "2022-05-18T13:42:28Z")

</div>

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
>
> This is a PvP game

Eve also has PvE _theme parks_, Abyssal dungeons etc, I have no problem with that and there should be more themeparks. Getting to and from them is not safe either, one still has to dock up and get items into a NPC hanger to be safe.

Eve is not just a PvP game. Non dungeon PvE themeparks are mission spaces and so forth, just more dangerous in the general population.

The fact we have to reiterate that to the CSM is shocking really. Shows their bias.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/27 "2022-05-18T13:46:55Z")

</div>

> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#):
>
> Eve also has PvE _theme parks_, Abyssal dungeons etc, I have no problem with that and there should be more themeparks. Getting to and from them is not safe either, one still has to dock up and get items into a NPC hanger to be safe.
> 
> Eve is not just a PvP game. Non dungeon PvE themparks are mission spaces and so forth, just more dangerous in the general population.
> 
> The fact we have to reiterate that to the CSM is shocking really. Shows their bias.

I will type this slowly because I know you can’t read very fast.

This. Is. A. PvP. Game.

Yes, there is PvE. It’s not very good. It’s never been very good. The reason this game still exists 20 years later is not because people want to run the same level 2 missions over and over again. If you don’t accept this, you’re willfully deluding yourself.

When PvE gets boring, when you literally run through the entire list and can’t find anything you think is worthwhile for your group of 2-5 newbies, it’s time to get out of the PvE space and go PvP. That’s where you’ll find the content that’s both enjoyable, new every time, and competitive enough that it gets your adrenaline flowing.

This is why people stick with this game. Not abyssals.

The fact that I have to reiterate this to anybody, especially IT pedants like you, is unfortunate.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/28 "2022-05-18T13:47:36Z")

</div>

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
>
> This. Is. A. PvP. Game.
> 
> Yes, there is PvE. It’s not very good.

It’s both, you make it out like there is only one kind of content in Eve and it’s PvP only, that is pure falsehood.

It is a sandbox, with themparks included embedded or instanced.

Perhaps in 2003 it was just PvP, that era is over. Missions are PvE, just with different player risk levels being in the general space.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/31 "2022-05-18T13:55:04Z")

</div>

> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#):
>
> That’s the best you got? No vote for you EVER. Glad to see you go, keep your fake “I talked to the dev about ESI 30 mins before” lip service at fanfest.

I’ve never asked for your vote, nor do I want it. You are the absolute worst kind of poster here, and you waste my time constantly. Why I didn’t leave you blocked, I don’t know. Even when you’re saying things that are legitimate - like the ESI needs work - you do it in a way that’s so absurdly off-putting that it makes me want to tell CCP to keep the ESI the way it is just to piss you off.

OP said nothing in his original post about wanting PvE content. I never said that there is no PvE in this game. I answered his question, and you swoop in here with your pedantry, and I don’t have the patience for it.

This is a PvP game. Just like all the other PvP oriented MMOs out there, it does have PvE. But you will never get the best of this game if you don’t want to participate in PvP, and only the most obtuse people will argue otherwise.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/37 "2022-05-18T14:07:25Z")

</div>

24 hours. That’s all I ask. A day where you don’t pollute the forum with this trash.

Please for the love of god

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/38 "2022-05-18T14:08:09Z")

</div>

Nobody is forcing you to read the posts or agree or disagree with them.

Criticism is hard, we know.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/40 "2022-05-18T14:26:41Z")

</div>

Some offtipoc posts have been removed. And I ask you all to stay on the topic of the post from now on.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/41 "2022-05-18T14:52:54Z")

</div>

> [@Barak\_Obrama](#):
>
> Correction: I want PvE content.
> 
> I am a healthy man who want to try some veggies. I can’t find restaurant with affordable prices to eat greens and come to the guru place to ask for advice. And was sent to the steak house instead.

Staying within the analogy:

You came to the steak house asking for veggies. There are veggies here, as a side dish to steak. But those veggies aren’t enough for you and you dislike the steak that comes with it.

Or in EVE terms:

You came to a PvP game asking for PvE, find that there is some PvE but mostly as a generator to get ships in space for PvP interactions. The PvE isn’t to your liking and you do not wish to get involved in the PvP that is present everywhere.

Are you at the wrong restaurant perhaps?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/42 "2022-05-18T14:53:28Z")

</div>

> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
>
> You came to the steak house asking for veggies. There are veggies here, as a side dish to steak. But those veggies aren’t enough for you and you dislike the steak that comes with it.

Can we please not do food anologies? Whatever you do, don’t mention coffee and cookies or ice cream k.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/43 "2022-05-18T14:54:43Z")

</div>

I was about to get some cookies on my way home, but your suggestion to also get ice cream is a good one. Thanks!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/44 "2022-05-18T14:55:24Z")

</div>

> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
>
> but your suggestion to also get ice cream is a good one. Thanks!

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/c/2/5c2c84f8a7681f614b181cb568797266c2f757ed.gif)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/45 "2022-05-18T15:00:44Z")

</div>

Part of my childhood!!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Barak\_Obrama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barak_obrama/32/316306_2.png) [@Barak\_Obrama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barak_Obrama)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/46 "2022-05-18T15:30:25Z")

</div>

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
>
> run the same level 2 missions over and over again

Why would I run level 2 missions if there is another PvE content: Incursions, wormholes, Abyss, Exploration? Even PI can fit in PvE content. I asked about what can fit in middle ground between level two missions and Incursions. In another MMORPG Incursion would be raid dungeons, while I’m asking about casual five-people dungeon.

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
>
> When PvE gets boring, when you literally run through the entire list and can’t find anything you think is worthwhile for your group of 2-5 newbies, it’s time to get out of the PvE space and go PvP.

1. PvP eat through ISK, especially so for low skill players (not characters)
2. Not really rewarding for low skill players

Learning in game mechanics(like how warp works, server ticks, target lock time, ECM, net, bubbles and why buffer tanking Vexor with Bulkheads is a bad idea) is time and ISK hungry activity. Which I would take my friends in, but in safe from outside interference environment. Because getting ganked by 25 people will not teach them anything - you need to learn how to walk before trying to run.

Event sites and WH are good for that - you get at least warp disruptors on you and high alpha, but WH is not gank-proof, while event sites is temporary and too scarce.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Kondur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicholas_kondur/32/420734_2.png) [@Nicholas\_Kondur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicholas_Kondur)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/47 "2022-05-18T15:31:21Z")

</div>

Come try Pochven. Good combat, good isk. Its extremely dangerous but with the amount you CAN make if youre smart will easily replace ships and net a large profit. Hope to see you there.

N. Kondur  
Kybernauts Clade

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Barak\_Obrama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barak_obrama/32/316306_2.png) [@Barak\_Obrama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barak_Obrama)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022/48 "2022-05-18T15:36:06Z")

</div>

I’ll just quote EVE Online game description from [https://www.eveonline.com/](https://www.eveonline.com/) and ask again: where is PvE content for newbies to pick from countless options?

> EVE Online is a community-driven spaceship MMORPG where players can play free, choosing their own path from countless options.
> 
> Experience space exploration, immense PvP and PvE battles and a thriving player economy in an ever-expanding sandbox.
> 
> Participate in many in-game professions and activities, including war, politics, piracy, trading, and exploration, across 7,000 star systems with hundreds of thousands of other players.

[Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022.md?page=1)

[Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-can-i-found-content-for-newbie-2-5-player-fleet/363022.md?page=3)
