# Who agrees about this alowwance? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 3, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782 "2018-10-03T07:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/21 "2018-10-04T13:36:19Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > We could also try for a system-wide doomsday. Basically everything in the system dies. Then allow them in hisec and watch jita explode. Cluster-wide doomsday for everyone who isn’t docked up in … 3, 2, 1. ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Sanchezo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/billy_sanchezo/32/390986_2.png) [@Billy\_Sanchezo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Billy_Sanchezo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/22 "2018-10-04T14:18:07Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Ugh. Alphas are worse than renters. Sorry for being in a category of players that are mostly silent, and the only ones that speak up are idiots asking for more free stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Trey-Gowdy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trey-gowdy/32/92876_2.png) [@Trey-Gowdy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trey-Gowdy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/23 "2018-10-04T14:23:07Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > Cluster-wide doomsday for everyone who isn’t docked up in … 3, 2, 1. I miss the “system-wide” Doomsday. I can tank it…I can tank it…I can tank…■■■■…I died ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Gideon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_gideon/32/141713_2.png) [@Marcus\_Gideon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Gideon)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/24 "2018-10-04T14:42:37Z")
Alphas literally are hobos standing on the side of the road holding a cardboard sign asking for free stuff. And no matter what you give them, they just ask for more free stuff. - Alphas started out only able to use T1 ships from their chosen race. Then they cried, and now they can fly all races. - Alphas still couldn’t fly Faction ships. Then they cried, and now they can fly Faction ships. - Alphas started out unable to use T2 mods. Then they cried, and now they can use just about all of the T2 mods. Alphas need to stop trying to get everything they want for free, and just subscribe to the damned game. ---
**Author:** ![zander\_exvirus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zander_exvirus/32/189470_2.png) [@zander\_exvirus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zander_exvirus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/25 "2018-10-04T14:45:33Z")
maybe stop being a alpha you bad ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/26 "2018-10-04T16:11:21Z")
Only if it’s anime robot shaped after transformation. –and Gadget will form the head ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/27 "2018-10-04T16:32:30Z")
> [@Billy\_Sanchezo](#): > > Sorry for being in a category of players that are mostly silent, and the only ones that speak up are idiots asking for more free stuff. That’s just it. The stupidity of the OP’s request is absolutely a problem… but it’s not -the- problem. There are a tonne of Omega idiots too. Heck, depending on who you ask, there’s probably a good few that’d call me an idiot. I know there’s a LOT of omegas that I hold in poor regard. The real problem I have with Alphas is that Alphas are literally freeloaders. While we fund the development and sustainment of the game, alphas simply partake. That you can play long term as an alpha justifies that you like the game… so why not support the developers? That’s why I dislike alphas. Renters are just not real people and thus subject to disdain. CCP being under PA’s thumb now puts them at ever-higher risks of monetizing the game further. Unless, of course, they’re already making good money. ---
**Author:** ![Nyalnara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyalnara/32/254593_2.png) [@Nyalnara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyalnara)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/28 "2018-10-04T16:40:41Z")
> [@Ravnik](#): > > I imagine all that would happen is eventually all of the fleet battles would go from 1 or 2 super titans to everyone fielding them…then we would be looking at an even bigger ship to counter. I remember having a BS bomber suggested as a new counter for the titan/super power-creep. - Cannot use Covops Cloak (would be broken). - Can fit a Large Bomb Launcher. - Is a T2 variant of the BS that doesn’t have one yet. - Is not tough enough to be fielded everywhere, so that it is kept just as a counter to cap blobs. (And that way it can be cleared off the field by subcaps.) Then you balance the Large Bomb so that it apply damage crappily on anything smaller than a cap. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/29 "2018-10-04T16:44:36Z")
> [@Nyalnara](#): > > I remember having a BS bomber suggested as a new counter for the titan/super power-creep. I’ve made similar requests to allow bomb launchers on blackops battleships. Would greatly expand their niche, without stepping on bombers - they remain the comp you’d use in high risk / low SP scenarios. But adding bomb launchers to blackops means now you’ve got some staying power, lots of pew, and **void bombs**. They’d become a nightmare scenario for any active tanked cap. Though I do think they also need a bit more tank to adequately fulfill that role. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/30 "2018-10-06T20:00:55Z")
Discussions like this makes it clear for any non fanboy that the game is in its final throes. Payers complaining that non payers get way too much and non payers complaining not getting enough… Free to play going live was the beginning of the end as some said a couple of years ago… They were laughed at because there was the PROMISE that alphas NEVER will get as much as omegas… Promise broken… ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/31 "2018-10-06T20:11:20Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > They were laughed at because there was the PROMISE that alphas NEVER will get as much as omegas… > > Promise broken… Were you thinking when you wrote this, or are you just retarded? ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/32 "2018-10-06T20:19:26Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Were you thinking when you wrote this, or are you just retarded? How about “I was there,have seen it,know what i’m talking about”? There WAS the promise that alphas NEVER will get the same as omegas at start of ftp…even if you deny it it’s still the truth… Alphas can use t2 modules,faction ships and many other things…so stop appeasing it ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/33 "2018-10-06T20:32:01Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > There WAS the promise that alphas NEVER will get the same as omegas at start of ftp…even if you deny it it’s still the truth… > > Alphas can use t2 modules,faction ships and many other things…so stop appeasing it Okay… so there’s along list, I’ll just choose one for brevity. Bombers? ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/34 "2018-10-06T20:34:45Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Okay… so there’s along list, I’ll just choose one for brevity. Bombers? You really think they won’t get them? They just have to complain…worked perfect in the past…same goes for any ship bigger than bs… They will get it after complaining loud… ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/35 "2018-10-06T20:36:23Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > You really think they won’t get them? You’re accusing them of breaking their promise. Yet their promise has quite clearly not been broken. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/36 "2018-10-06T20:39:41Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > You’re accusing them of breaking their promise. Yet their promise has quite clearly not been broken. In which world do you live to come to that conclusion? Must be all pinky and shining in bright fanboy colours… 🙂 T1 and frigates is more than enough for alphas… ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/37 "2018-10-06T20:40:54Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > In which world do you live to come to that conclusion? Okay, I’ll ask you the exact same question. Can alphas fly bombers? ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/38 "2018-10-06T20:44:45Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Okay, I’ll ask you the exact same question. Can alphas fly bombers? Not yet…but you really seem to deny they will in the future… Not different than flying BS or faction ships… CCP has opend pandoras box and now they cannot close it. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/39 "2018-10-06T21:06:37Z")
Transformers HeadMaster or the black cat-part of Voltron? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782/40 "2018-10-06T21:38:07Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Not yet…but you really seem to deny they will in the future… So you make an assertion about an action that hasn’t happened in the present, based on what may or may not even happen in the future? Allow me to re-ask the original question. Were you thinking, or are you just retarded? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-agrees-about-this-alowwance/110782.md?page=3)