# Who and When voted for Trigl NPC full spool up in 10 sec? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 28, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489 "2022-05-28T04:05:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/1 "2022-05-28T04:05:41Z")
I want to know when there has been a votation to change the Triglavian NPC Spool Up time to reduce it to 10 secs. All Abyssal Triglavian waves are completely and utterly broken, unbalanced. When it happened. How was it communicated to all the players. Where were the results of the votation published. Who proposed this nonsense and why??? To what avail??? A similar change, would require to inform Abyss runners, that they should be able to tank 5000 DPS in T3, and 6000 DPS in T4’s, T1, T2, T5, T6 also would need some calculations so people do not suicides!! Does CCP realize a 10 Triglavian wave in T3-T4 full spool up almost immediate means 5-6000 DPS??? at 90% Resist it would still be 600hp/s to tank??? In Cruisers??? If it’s been voted, this means T3’s are off-limit to solo ships!! It’s not a problem, but people should know about this!!! How this happened without everybody being noticed??? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/2 "2022-05-28T04:39:43Z")
Ccp doesnt always tell players what happened. In the 19 yrs of eve they still believe in having the players figure stuff out. That is the challenge of eve is figuring out what works if the meta changes ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/3 "2022-05-28T04:52:16Z")
Stay focused. I dont care what happened in 19 years of Eve. I have been here for 11 years and I never saw anything quite like this… I want to know when this vote happened, someone must have voted. If not. If it was internal in CCP, and no players was involved, it should have been posted in some patch report. Otherwise this game is no more about tactical combat, but every single stat for ships, missions, etc, could be whatever from one day to another… AND it’s not some normal discovery, this plain cheating!!! Imagine that tomorrow Upwell structure would half their defence if a special NPC ship no-one knows what it does, would kill the Upwell in one shot… Of course, it could be a super Jovian ship that is part of the mistery of the game… But could you imagine the rage if thousands of billiions of assets would go bloop in one night??? This is the same, except its Abyss Solo players who are paying the toll… ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/4 "2022-05-28T05:23:31Z")
@Brisc_Rubal@CCP_Aurora @Mike_Azariah ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/5 "2022-05-28T05:27:31Z")
CSM Mike\_Azaria??? So it was CSM players vote??? > **[@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mike_azariah)** > **[@CCP\_Aurora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ccp_aurora)** > **[@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/brisc_rubal)** > > Brisc Rubal has had a storied history across the universe, including here in New Eden. He’s done just about everything one man can do, and then some. > Brisc has been popping up all across the known galaxy, and even in a few far, f… What else did they vote??? Can they also explain 44km Neutralizer Leshak range?? Do they use X-type Neutrilizers??? [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/6/8/0687c28227a00368650fb8a53e780520f303149f.jpeg "EVE - ABYSS T2 FIRE - NERGAL - 13k EHP LEFT TO LIVE or DIE??") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeC_Lemu1xc&t=1467) ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/6 "2022-05-28T05:38:20Z")
I was tagging rhem to see what they know. Damn dude calm the ■■■■ down ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/7 "2022-05-28T05:39:55Z")
lol You think the CSM has any input on everyday game design decisions like NPC damage and health? The only thing that decides that is CCP’s perception/calculation of the risk/reward ratio for content. If you carebears didn’t farm out the entire game like you have blinders on, they wouldn’t be nerfing your income all the time. Maybe next time you log in to “make some iskies” like you do every single day of your life, despite your wallet already being _absolutely chock-full_ of them, you should instead fit a cruiser and go try to shoot another player instead so you don’t inject a bunch more unnecessary stuff into the economy and make CCP think that they need to implement even _more_ “fixes”. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/8 "2022-05-28T05:48:05Z")
Absolute? Fixes? Lmao… ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/9 "2022-05-28T05:52:11Z")
Calm down? I have just tagged them also… Did I say THEY did it? No. I appreciate your help. Dont want to expose yourself? Play Safe? Fine… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/10 "2022-05-28T05:56:30Z")
You’re real-life panicking because they’re impacting your ability to wage-slave an imaginary spaceship video game income. Think about that for a second. You guys are your own worst enemies. You have a hard time grasping that your penchant to consume is gong to result in blow-back. And in no aspects of EVE’s content has this been historically more evident than high-sec incursion and abyssal deadspace farming, two of the safest, most profitable activities to ever exist in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/11 "2022-05-28T05:57:24Z")
You dont fix Abyss by CHEATING Triglavian NPC stats. Yuo want to fix Abyss? Fine, put 35 Damavik ,16 Vedmak in a room, there is your fix. ppl will know to not go against a wall of Damavik or it will die. Cheat the SPOOL UP i s WRONG. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/12 "2022-05-28T05:58:06Z")
You are WRONG. NO means NO. Now or you get it, or you dont. I can’t help yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/13 "2022-05-28T05:58:51Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > You dont fix Abyss by CHEATING Triglavian NPC stats. Of _course_ you do. This content was made for three people, and you’re soloing it. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/14 "2022-05-28T05:59:55Z")
Whaaat??? [Is it possible to run t1 abyssal sites with a single worm？ - PvE Gameplay Center / PvE Ships & Modules - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-possible-to-run-t1-abyssal-sites-with-a-single-worm/133778/5) [Calm Abyssal solo frigate – Who needs a fleet when you can Worm it! - Alpha Orbital (alpha-orbital.com)](https://www.alpha-orbital.com/news/abyssal-solo-worm-fit) It doesn’t matter… There’s Ships with CHEATED STATS… A FLEET or SOLO does not make absolutely no difference!!! At All!!! And btw WE are soloing, not just ME, and we are doing it for FUN, and an 8mil AVERAGE LOOT!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/15 "2022-05-28T06:10:01Z")
If the abyssal content is meant to be played by up to 3 ships, then it is balanced around bringing 3 ships. Just because someone figured they could run some parts of it in a solo ship doesn’t mean it’s intended to be ran solo. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/16 "2022-05-28T06:10:08Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > And btw WE are soloing, not just ME And I thank you for it, because players like you allow me the opportunity to convert an hour’s worth of my real-life income into like 6 billion ISK, so that I don’t have to grind for 50-100 hours to make the same amount. _But the game is objectively worse off for it._ ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/17 "2022-05-28T06:10:54Z")
So explain me why your HIGHNESS the filaments ALLOW FOR SOLO SHIP?? ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/18 "2022-05-28T06:11:08Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > It doesn’t matter… There’s Ships with CHEATED STATS… > A FLEET or SOLO does not make absolutely no difference!!! At All!!! Calm down 🤭 This whole game is a cheat. It is designed to waste money and time on. It’s like wrestling. It’s fixed 😃 so CCP makes money no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/19 "2022-05-28T06:11:38Z")
You side with me or side with the trolls, you decide. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/20 "2022-05-28T06:14:03Z")
I’m with you all the way, buddy. It’s a big cheat and that’s why I play for free. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489.md?page=2)