# Who and When voted for Trigl NPC full spool up in 10 sec?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 28, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489 "2022-05-28T04:05:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/21 "2022-05-28T06:16:06Z")

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> [@Queotzcatl](#):
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> So explain me why your HIGHNESS the filaments ALLOW FOR SOLO SHIP??

The same reason EVE doesn’t hold your hand anywhere else. If you wish to bring inadequate ships to a fight and die, you’re free to do so.

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/22 "2022-05-28T06:24:07Z")

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You are WRONG.

I Am a free person.

Go look for slaves elsewhere. Your HIGHNESS.

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**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/23 "2022-05-28T06:24:47Z")

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You already made 2 threads in the PvE section of the forums about harder Abyssals.

I can sympathize a little, but you already know the nerf is here. Consolation: 3 guys in a frigate and 2 guys in a destroyer are going to encounter a similar spike as 1 guy in a cruiser.

Generally  
1 CCP tends to nerf activities that make a lot of ISK  
2 Abyssals were controversial within the old player base

It was a matter of time. No post on the forums is going to chance CCP’s mind.

Only thing the forum can do is offer advice: it is what it is now; try find a better activity in the game.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/24 "2022-05-28T06:24:50Z")

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Who is this highness you’re talking to? A voice in your head?

(That might explain things…)

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/25 "2022-05-28T06:25:54Z")

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You do Understand there is CHEATING???

Keep siding with CCP…

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/26 "2022-05-28T06:26:15Z")

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Cheating now?

Who’s cheating? The _game_?

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/27 "2022-05-28T06:27:39Z")

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Why are you trolling?

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/28 "2022-05-28T06:28:51Z")

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Why are you calling people who disagree with you ‘trolls’?

Is it so you don’t have to deal with the fact that people can disagree with you?

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**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/29 "2022-05-28T06:29:42Z")

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The NPCs always followed their own game rules. NPCs tend to be weaker than players in the same ship type, but not every mechanic is calculated for NPCs.  
This was even worse with older content like missions.

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/30 "2022-05-28T06:31:15Z")

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I need a PROTEST against these practices!  
I need people to awakes its consciousness on this randomization of  
stat of NPC Triglavian ships.  
I want to know if OTHER PPL are aware of this!

And do you know WHY???

Because NO-ONE came to me telling me this happened.  
I didn’t read it somewhere.

I Discovered it based on my experience in the game.  
Doing some basics calculations.  
And something did not FIT AT ALL!!!

Is it clear enough???  
I want PPL TO KNOW ABOUT IT!!!

It seems all you care is destroying ALL EVIDENCE!!!

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/31 "2022-05-28T06:35:31Z")

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Spoiler needed. There was no ship loss and yet you still complain?

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> [@Queotzcatl](#):
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> I want PPL TO KNOW ABOUT IT!!!

Write up a new fit as you been there and passed that with ease it looked like. Many might not get through and using your knowledge would help others more.

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/32 "2022-05-28T06:37:32Z")

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> [@Queotzcatl](#):
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> I want PPL TO KNOW ABOUT IT!!!

If you start alerting everyone like this you’re just going to get banned. When CCP can’t shut someone up they ban them. It’s happened before. See: Bluelysian vs CCP.

> [@Queotzcatl](#):
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> It seems all you care is destroying ALL EVIDENCE!!!

There must first be evidence to destroy. Why do you think CCP doesn’t “hold your hand” and keeps some meta and mechanics info to themselves? Because the whole game is a scam.

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/33 "2022-05-28T06:37:52Z")

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Spoiler .

I am sorry if I hurt someone.  
I am out in RLI for now.

Peace.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/34 "2022-05-28T06:39:13Z")

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Share fitting first.

/NM found it at 3:min mark

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/35 "2022-05-28T06:50:05Z")

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Even during high-profile scandals we don’t get such a ridiculous amount of conspiracy nuts coming out of the woodwork as during routine, relatively minor PvE nerfs.

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**Author:** ![Cergorach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cergorach/32/410391_2.png) [@Cergorach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cergorach)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/36 "2022-05-28T07:40:30Z")

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> [@Queotzcatl](#):
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> You side with me or side with the trolls, you decide.

Trolls it is…

Are you actually sure it’s changed? Or are you just throwing a hissy fit because your flying isn’t as good as you think it is…

Sidenote: There have been previous changes to Abyssals since their inception that have NOT always been spelled out in detail.

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**Author:** ![Violetta\_Siwalina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/violetta_siwalina/32/454961_2.png) [@Violetta\_Siwalina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Violetta_Siwalina)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/37 "2022-05-28T07:48:33Z")

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CCP doesn’t care much about you, they showed it on their last fanfest, relax

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/38 "2022-05-28T10:32:05Z")

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I also had a full High-Grade Amulet clone, with boosters for up to 10% Rep bouns.  
The Vedmak had 4200 base armor hp, with Amulet close to 6500 Armor Hp.  
100HP/s cap stable, and the Ancillary was just optional, for another 100 hp/s.

8 Kikis at 80dmg would be 640-200=440  
1 min per kiki kill in 3 min they should have been down to 5 or 400dmg-200=200dmg.  
Keep in mind 80 dmg is already over 375 base DPS for kikis…  
Their tank was also overpowered…but doable…  
The Last 4 Kikis Never went under 140-150dmg.  
My tank just melted.

700-80% = 140 DMG. 700 DPS.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/39 "2022-05-28T11:19:00Z")

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Here we see the sperg is his natural habitat: a rage post filled with all caps and rabies-induced behaviour combined with an overall lack of understanding.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/40 "2022-05-28T11:19:50Z")

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> [@Cergorach](#):
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> Or are you just throwing a hissy fit because your flying isn’t as good as you think it is

Check his Caracal loss, decide for yourself.

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