# Who and When voted for Trigl NPC full spool up in 10 sec?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 28, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489 "2022-05-28T04:05:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/81 "2022-05-30T06:30:59Z")

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Vedmak has range control over my Ab, Its way faster than the BSword.  
I had no chances of survive, the only tactic was brawling.  
I had 4 Damavik left and a Vedmak at full Spool at 16Km and 950Dps with range control over me.  
I was very dead. I should have killed all Damavik first, the Entanglers, but It’s a lot of  
ifs…  
I’m in no position to buy back a Broadsword at the moment, it was a hard hit.  
Maybe in a month or two I’ll have saved enough to re-invest in a T2 Cruiser.  
At the moment I’m trying out Alpha frigates and Destroyers fits under 50mil.  
My Omega ends today and I’m in no hurry to re-subscribe immediately.

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/82 "2022-05-30T06:43:57Z")

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If loot drop was better, I could justify try out T2 Cruisers like the Broadsword with the Bling fit and clones I lost. Because even Bling fit and clones, can die in a T4, as it happened.  
I only run maybe 6-7 T4’s for an average drop of 8mil per run before to die.  
I was a 1 Bil Ship and a 1.5Bil Clone.  
I like the idea of moving the market, but 2.5 Bil to make with these drop rates is very slow…  
This month was very lucky and that’s why I bought the Broadsword…

The market is not going to move that much with these drop rates…  
An Abyss Leshak with 50KM range Neutralizer could drop an Officer Neutrilzer.  
A stupid fast Vedmak could drop an Officer AB… and so on…  
Instead the only drop in the Abyss is from the Bioadaptive cache…  
But it wasn’t Abyss isk… it was other gameplay, market, etc… not Abyss…

The difficulty has increased? I can’t say. But I can say that at this drop rate  
I can not afford to replace a 1 Bil ship with ease.

If the drop rate do not increase, at least the Vedmak and Damavik could be nerfed a little…  
that Spool up time is just ridiculous… with a normal Spool up, i’d have survived.  
Barely.

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**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/83 "2022-05-30T07:21:17Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> is old news and is the primary way they’ve been maintaining “destruction” levels for a couple years now

The primary way? Sorry but are you saying that CCP cheats its players?

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> CCP feels they need destruction to keep the marketplace from imploding, and so they’ve been resorting to “unannounced changes to game mechanics” (and/or 'announced with very short notice) in order to keep destruction up

It does sound like that’s what you’re saying.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Get used to it, Hilmar has straight up stated that “yanking the rug out from under players” is the new design principle

Is that even ethical in business?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/84 "2022-05-30T07:24:59Z")

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I like how people spam-farm PvE content 18 hours a day, and then complain that they’re not making enough money after completely gutting the market.

MMO PvE farmers are _literally_ locusts.

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**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/85 "2022-05-30T07:45:03Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> MMO PvE farmers are _literally_ locusts

Figuratively. If they were “literally” locusts they’d actually _be_ insects.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/86 "2022-05-30T07:48:19Z")

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I am pretty sure they actually _are_ insects.

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**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/87 "2022-05-30T07:54:18Z")

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That would explain all the fake news. Insects waging info war on mankind

 ![kalbar_1412](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/e/d/fed8f4b1cc0af33f6a958a08d59a9879feb24da0.jpeg)  
 ![green-locust-sitting-computer-mouse-background-calendar-green-locust-sitting-computer-mouse-128119939](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/d/c9d8299624cfecf3fd0adfc9cc29b1453f60f3f2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/88 "2022-05-30T09:19:32Z")

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Oh yes, the Green deal, it looks pretty inviting with some honey panature… mmhhh… it must be a trap…  
I know it… it’s the devil in disguise… stay away…

Take a deep frypan and watch some farming in the meantime I get a coffee break…

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/4/f/b4f0b56aba88c2958559ac3d828a6838e388bf1c.jpeg "EVE - ABYSS T1 DARK - JAGUAR - NEW FIT") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDHoqitCdYw)

Alpha Friendly Navy Slicer Abyss

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/6/e/b6e25c448900fc5f8bc8ed4c2506ad26d78e3d0e.jpeg "EVE - ABYSS ELECTRICAL - NAVY SLICER - ALPHA FRIENDLY -CHEAP&EASY") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJPlKZLZ6Ls)

Anyway a Farmer should be supposed to “Farm” for plexing its account?  
I’m Asking because to me it’s Utopian…

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/89 "2022-05-30T09:39:38Z")

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Stop advertising your crappy videos.

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/90 "2022-05-30T09:49:13Z")

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Do you have better ones??  
I love creative ppl, Aisha is a beautiful name, Aisha.  
Show me what you got… Aisha escusex moi!!

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/b/cbb99a0c86fa7da7a5e75b37cc4e63bedf837b12.jpeg "Khaled - Aicha") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzlHucbD76U)

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/91 "2022-05-30T09:51:54Z")

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Not the point, this isn’t the “go look at the stuff I made” sub forum, we HAVE a forum for that.

Besides, why would anyone want to watch boring and uninformative videos full of misunderstanding?

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/93 "2022-05-30T13:00:52Z")

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There is no such thing as “crappy frigate”.

Every ship in eve has a purpose. Some ships are better suited for certain situations than others.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/94 "2022-05-30T15:12:36Z")

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Interesting I did not notice the webs yea then for sure that was an insane room. Abyss is fun but the money is terrible unless you have perfect fit + implant’s drugs and have run it many times. If you want money do lvl 4 missions I think man you will be able to plex your way to omega.

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**Author:** ![Hugs\_n\_Kiss\_s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hugs_n_kiss_s/32/302125_2.png) [@Hugs\_n\_Kiss\_s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hugs_n_Kiss_s)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/95 "2022-05-30T15:23:52Z")

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We know about it and WE Adapted to it. Maybe you need to do the same. I have have no problem running T3s or T4s in my gila. Just have to be on the ball a bit more for the T4s

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/96 "2022-05-30T15:35:48Z")

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@Queotzcatl Have you actually tried a gila in the abyss? I can relate to people not wanting to fly the gila in the abyss as it’s so the meta and not fun. If I did have the option, I would try other ships, but the gila makes abyss so simple and so minimal risk in the t3’s I have done!

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/97 "2022-05-30T15:41:47Z")

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Gila is ind a great ship maybe too strong thou 😛

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/98 "2022-05-30T15:42:03Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> gila

He’d armour tank it while using light drones and call it “experimenting”, to then cry about how difficult it is and how he can’t make any money with chaining abyssals.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/99 "2022-05-30T15:48:23Z")

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Let the guy post his videos you are all being grumpy old men lol, have a heart.

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Schlosser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roland_schlosser/32/392001_2.png) [@Roland\_Schlosser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roland_Schlosser)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/100 "2022-05-30T17:17:04Z")

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Abyssal Space is a blight on the game and its core design philosophy.

I’m glad you lost a ship.

Cry harder.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-and-when-voted-for-trigl-npc-full-spool-up-in-10-sec/364489/101 "2022-05-30T20:59:01Z")

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Just suicide gank them when they come out of their hole in jita if you want to rebel against the system.

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