# Who Came Up with The Triglavians?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199>\
**Category:** EVE Lore Discussion\
**Created:** [July 5, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199 "2022-07-05T14:33:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximillian_bonaparte/32/393093_2.png) [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximillian_Bonaparte)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/1 "2022-07-05T14:33:32Z")

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Does anyone know who the writer/developer/artist is who initially came up with the whole Triglavian concept?

I must know.

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**Author:** ![leavwiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leavwiz/32/235353_2.png) [@leavwiz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/leavwiz)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/3 "2022-07-05T15:04:26Z")

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i am pretty sure it was a dev that didnt want to deal with legacy code, so they started their own thing. along with abyssals and proving grounds ))

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/4 "2022-07-05T15:06:48Z")

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> [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](#):
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> Does anyone know who the writer/developer/artist is who initially came up with the whole Triglavian concept?
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> I must know.

Hilmar based it of a book he read. Forgot the name.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/5 "2022-07-05T15:07:38Z")

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This is very much the territory of rumor and conspiracy, once I guess I’m about to spread. I heard Hilmar read the _Three Body Problem_ by Cixin Liu (or all 3 books in the series) and was so enamored by the series and/or book he told his staff:

“Trisolarans – do that”.

Hence, Triglavians.

Edit: I don’t really feel bad about spreading this rumor because this is the same man who lays off and slims down CCP’s employee base coincidentally every time he is on a diet. Fits the man’s ego of how he views the company as an extension of himself. This is also rumor and conspiracy.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/6 "2022-07-05T15:09:10Z")

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Should have called it TriCladians. I think they are awesome.

I’m surprised they have not tried to tell the story of how human’s became all these entities, including drifters.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/7 "2022-07-05T15:14:13Z")

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Someone with lots of delusion of grandeur and not the slightest bit of development competence or knowledge of gameplay aspects. They are absolute trash, hypocrites and on the other hand overpowered and unbalanced.

![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/5/96524d53cb22e8d34dff925203908c55729b363e.png)

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/8 "2022-07-05T15:14:41Z")

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Their tracking is what is overpowered if they nerf the tracking they will be fine.  
I guess Their slot efficiency is much higher than other ships as well with only using 1 slot for gun’s but that can be solved by halfing gun dps/cap usage and grid/cpu and giving 2 turret hardpoints to only allow 1 utlity high.

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**Author:** ![Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximillian_bonaparte/32/393093_2.png) [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximillian_Bonaparte)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/9 "2022-07-05T15:18:40Z")

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I don’t care about all the petty whining and tears about them - what I am more interested in is the creative art and story aspect. I also read the chinese novel its pretty good.  
I wonder who also decided to throw in the Slavic cultural aspects! lol I don’t think it was Hilmar who really fleshed them out. Doesn’t feel like him.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/10 "2022-07-05T15:20:06Z")

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> [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](#):
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> I don’t care about all the petty whining and tears about them

I think you are being a lil dramatic. What was said was out of logic not emotion.

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**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/11 "2022-07-05T15:30:50Z")

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It goes both ways no?

Forums are open to discussion, not to satisfy your needs.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/12 "2022-07-05T15:34:08Z")

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> [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](#):
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> creative

Where? Mustve snuck that in while I was away

I guess if you didnt play Destiny you wont have seen what they knocked off for these guys.

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**Author:** ![Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximillian_bonaparte/32/393093_2.png) [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximillian_Bonaparte)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/13 "2022-07-05T15:34:23Z")

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Ok sure – I just happen to be a real fan of them bordering on fanatic - gameplay aspects aside (a separate discussion) I feel it is necessary to recognize the pure creative genius of them, and want to know what kind of person came up with it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/14 "2022-07-05T15:35:27Z")

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Use those words on Reddit and you will get your answer, dev’s are not allowed to answer on these forums but on reddit its a different story I see them answering all the time. Except when I bait them they seem to realize xD

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/15 "2022-07-09T08:53:26Z")

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> **[EVE Lore Discussion](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/fiction-portal/eve-lore-discussion/86)**
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> The place to discuss the official lore and fiction of EVE Online.

For real though, you might get better luck posting in that category, as a lot of lore/RP nerds seem to stick to their side of the forums.

I can’t imagine why…

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/16 "2022-07-09T12:30:58Z")

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> [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](#):
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> I don’t care about all the petty whining and tears about them - what I am more interested in is the creative art and story aspect. I also read the chinese novel its pretty good.  
> I wonder who also decided to throw in the Slavic cultural aspects! lol I don’t think it was Hilmar who really fleshed them out. Doesn’t feel like him.

Just play that 90’s game Freespace 2 and look up the Shivans, and you’ll know where Hilmar got his inspiration from for Trigs in Eve.

The Sun-converting part made me chuckle quite a bit, and you’ll know why once you play it.

Even the esthetics are the same.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/f/e9ffb92e6e4190a4bc10b789e20d63facc81f5e3.jpeg "Freespace 2 - The Second Shivan War") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6RLEXOdsPg)

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**Author:** ![Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximillian_bonaparte/32/393093_2.png) [@Maximillian\_Bonaparte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximillian_Bonaparte)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/17 "2022-07-09T19:15:42Z")

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Moderators you are free to move this thread I somehow overlooked Eve Lore discussion!

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**Author:** ![Afezan\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/afezan_shardani/32/502137_2.png) [@Afezan\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Afezan_Shardani)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/19 "2022-07-13T03:19:32Z")

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Hilmar couldn’t pronounce midichlorians.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/20 "2022-07-13T04:01:50Z")

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Moved from General Discussion to EVE Lore Discussion.

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**Author:** ![Jamal\_Frederick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jamal_frederick/32/374132_2.png) [@Jamal\_Frederick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jamal_Frederick)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/21 "2022-07-18T15:58:46Z")

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Drifters aren’t human, only using “human” bodies. They are considered human-derived though.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-came-up-with-the-triglavians/369199/22 "2022-07-18T16:26:35Z")

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I always thought it was human → Jove → got corrupted → drifter.

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