# Who is the oldest races in eve online? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 19, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127 "2017-08-19T11:25:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rana\_Ash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rana_ash/32/374123_2.png) [@Rana\_Ash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rana_Ash)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/21 "2017-08-24T10:29:22Z")
So where do Drifters fit in?, are they part of Jove or pre Jove? ---
**Author:** ![Krima\_Sumyungi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/krima_sumyungi/32/496692_2.png) [@Krima\_Sumyungi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Krima_Sumyungi)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/22 "2017-08-24T15:50:10Z")
> [@Rana\_Ash](#): > > So where do Drifters fit in?, are they part of Jove or pre Jove? Jove that took their enhancements just a tad too far. ---
**Author:** ![Rana\_Ash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rana_ash/32/374123_2.png) [@Rana\_Ash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rana_Ash)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/23 "2017-08-25T07:21:04Z")
> [@Krima\_Sumyungi](#): > > Jove that took their enhancements just a tad too far. So like IR vision,WiFi or just skill in driving ships around corners? ---
**Author:** ![DaReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dareaper/32/330255_2.png) [@DaReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DaReaper)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/24 "2017-08-25T16:17:42Z")
And you just gave me an idea. CCP mentioned they are going to be adding new space (eventually if thats still the plan) what if this is were the Talocan’s went? That would be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Raudur\_Froskur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raudur_froskur/32/246392_2.png) [@Raudur\_Froskur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raudur_Froskur)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/25 "2017-08-25T16:58:03Z")
I wonder how much PLEX one would have to buy to be allowed entrance… 😑 OT i know, just being very skeptical on when that’ll actually happen and what the state of the game will be when it does. If it does. ---
**Author:** ![Rana\_Ash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rana_ash/32/374123_2.png) [@Rana\_Ash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rana_Ash)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/26 "2017-08-29T10:33:28Z")
> [@Raudur\_Froskur](#): > > I wonder how much PLEX one would have to buy to be allowed entrance… 😑 > > OT i know, just being very skeptical on when that’ll actually happen and what the state of the game will be when it does. If it does. Sorry you are lacking 23989 Plex to be allowed entrance, come back when you have the full amount… ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/27 "2017-08-29T15:01:13Z")
Drifters are unusual. We know they come from the construct and are associated with the Sleepers (who are as we know Second empire Jove). In fact, the Jove refer to the Drifters as such. However, their true nature is not fully known, there are one of three possibilities: - The Drifters are The Other, a rogue AI that has emerged from the construct, desperate for human form. - The Drifters are the Sleepers from the Second Empire who have had their bodies disconnected and their implants harvested for Jamyl’s ‘Templar’ project. - The Drifters are something else that has managed to access the Construct and impose itself as The Other. ---
**Author:** ![Julanna\_Egnald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julanna_egnald/32/275350_2.png) [@Julanna\_Egnald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julanna_Egnald)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/28 "2017-08-29T17:51:00Z")
I don’t know about that. They made a great show in ganking the only known host of the Other, so why would they kill themselves? ---
**Author:** ![Rana\_Ash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rana_ash/32/374123_2.png) [@Rana\_Ash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rana_Ash)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/29 "2017-08-30T10:17:39Z")
Perhaps seeking a higher plane of exsistance, an attemp at become more than a physical presence. Something akin to pure energy… ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/30 "2017-08-31T05:18:36Z")
ELI5 aren’t all the races of equal age? In game Terrans are a myth, however out of game we know that the original origin of humans in New Eden is from Earth via a couple of wormholes. Until the collapse of the Eve Gate, everyone in the cluster (and likely additional solar systems we haven’t reached in the galaxy yet) were the same race and it’s only those ‘colonies’ that survived post the collapse remain now. The five races we currently know of and the additional AI based races are all of Terran origine right? and all the same age essentially, though they might not have begun identifying as the current race at the same time. Edit: Never mind. I read Teinyhr’s post above: > **[Who is the oldest races in eve online?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/13?u=scipio_artelius)** > > AFAIK It was a shield imploder - so specifically a weapon - and it was mentioned in one of the books - Templar One I think? I don’t own the books myself so can’t check. Talocan are likely another civilization that survived the EVE Gate collapse -... ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/31 "2017-08-31T07:18:54Z")
The reason they could be either or is in the details - a while before they assassinated Jamyl (who contained the Other), we learned that they had also killed Hilen Tukoss in their space. Thing is though, it seems that Tukoss’s Infomorph was **_captured_** by the Drifters as he died, meaning that it’s absolutely possible that they did the same thing to the Other/Jamyl when they killed her, since the Other was actually unable to leave Jamyl’s head. It’s excitingly ambiguous, and a lot of us are looking forward to learning the truth - myself, I’d be surprised if the “Other” was just removed from the story, given how central the Other and the Others are to the inner conflict of the Sleepers and the Enheduanni~ ---
**Author:** ![Ada\_Nadezna\_d\_Terran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ada_nadezna_d_terran/32/505310_2.png) [@Ada\_Nadezna\_d\_Terran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ada_Nadezna_d_Terran)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/32 "2026-10-02T19:59:14Z")
Terran are oldest but Talocan are the most powerful. 😘 ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Villard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_villard/32/394390_2.png) [@ISD\_Villard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Villard)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/33 "2026-10-02T21:25:12Z")
Biggest necro I’ve ever seen? Closing. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Villard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_villard/32/394390_2.png) [@ISD\_Villard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Villard)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/34 "2026-10-02T21:25:20Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Villard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_villard/32/394390_2.png) [@ISD\_Villard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Villard)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-is-the-oldest-races-in-eve-online/18127/35 "2026-10-02T21:25:22Z")
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