# Who Pays Broker Fees - Buyer or Seller?

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**Category:** New Citizens Q&A\
**Created:** [July 9, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-pays-broker-fees-buyer-or-seller/173517 "2019-07-09T04:21:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alex\_Coutant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_coutant/32/282536_2.png) [@Alex\_Coutant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Coutant)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-pays-broker-fees-buyer-or-seller/173517/1 "2019-07-09T04:21:23Z")

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I’m so confused about broker fees. I did an experiment today in which I set up a Buy Order for Water. It charged me a broker fee to set up the order. I then sent Water to an alt and sold the Water. It charged the alt sales tax but no broker fees. I repeated the same test using an Azbel player owned structure and a Gallente station. The results were the same (but with different broker fee rates).

When I sell items to another player’s existing Buy Order, it charges me broker fees AND sales tax. What’s going on?

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**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-pays-broker-fees-buyer-or-seller/173517/2 "2019-07-09T05:29:01Z")

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Whoever sets up the order pays the broker fee. Examples:

- If you set up a sell order to sell something you have, you pay.

- If you set up a buy order asking for something you want for a certain price, you pay.

- If you sell something you have to an existing buy order, you don’t pay any broker fees.

- If you buy something someone is offering on the market, you don’t pay any broker fees.

Sales tax is separate, and always played by the person receiving the ISK, the seller.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-pays-broker-fees-buyer-or-seller/173517/3 "2019-07-09T06:46:18Z")

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Broker Fee is always payed upfront when placing the Buy/Sell order; Sales tax is payed whenever you sell an item on the market by sell order.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_Coutant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_coutant/32/282536_2.png) [@Alex\_Coutant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Coutant)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-pays-broker-fees-buyer-or-seller/173517/4 "2019-07-10T02:41:16Z")

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This video explained the mistake I was making. I need to use the “Immediate” option.

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-pays-broker-fees-buyer-or-seller/173517/5 "2019-07-10T03:30:21Z")

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For a quick buck but less than you possibly want, sure.  
but to take time selling something for more than what people are asking, then you’ll want to use a broker.

If you see for example a kestrel selling for 500,000 isk, you may think, ok i’ll sell mine for 499,000 isk.

if you do immediate, then someone could have a buy order wanting a kestrel for 200,000 isk. Thats what you’ll end up selling it for. Where as if you set up a sell order, you can place it at 499,000 isk.

So it really boils down to what you are selling, and if you want to actually try to make a profit, or just get rid of it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/who-pays-broker-fees-buyer-or-seller/173517/6 "2019-10-08T03:30:24Z")

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