# Why add Triglavian and EDENCOM and not Jovian? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 5, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127 "2024-01-05T12:01:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/1 "2024-01-05T12:01:17Z")
Hello, its like CCP knows what people want and then does something completely different or opposite? What is that about? Genuinely curious Btw. a cool name for a new ORE Titan could be “Crag”. Really dirty and really loud. Mostly does mining but does it well. It can fit Capital Mining Lasers and also a Mining Doomsday. Im not sure excatly what that should do, but maybe it should be able to destroy planets and moons. Or maybe not. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/2 "2024-01-05T12:42:45Z")
> [@Dreg\_Apc](#): > > Hello, its like CCP knows what people want and then does something completely different or opposite? What is that about? They dont know what people want. Do you know what other people want? People dont know what they themselves want. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/3 "2024-01-05T12:55:53Z")
@Iceacid_Frostpacker knows what he wants, he wants the cold dead body of @Aiko_Danuja 👀 💀 ❄ > [@WTS Aiko Danuja's Frozen Corpse](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wts-aiko-danujas-frozen-corpse/433704): > > So yesterday in New Eden me and my buddy was just goofing around to find a way to clear my 1billion Bounty on my pilot so I can feel safe undocking a freighter on the weekend when we came across this dirty frozen corpse floating in space, my buddy told me that there might be some value in it so I decided to scoop it up and dock it into a NPC Uedama VII - Lai Dai Corporation Factory where it currenty hangs in my locker. Asking price I guess is like 350mill isk as it appears rather dir… Finally he got what he wanted and immediately got bored of it then tries to sell that old outdated toy. 🙃 🤭 😏 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/4 "2024-01-05T13:06:16Z")
Jovians are dead. You would know that if you read the lore at least a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/5 "2024-01-05T13:39:47Z")
Therefore by the transitive property, all dead ships are Jovian ships. EVE is _full_ of Jovian ships. Too late, OP - CCP beat you to the punch! ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/6 "2024-01-05T21:35:32Z")
![low-bid](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/4/2/14221254bb9ce35d97211de86fb50b08d3636d9e.jpeg) That used and abused space doll received a low bid. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/7 "2024-01-05T23:09:21Z")
For those who don’t get the inside joke, who’s the corpse of? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/8 "2024-01-05T23:15:39Z")
Aren’t Trigs Jovians? Just like Sleepers and Drifters. Basically for the last decade every time a new faction was added it was some splinter group of the Jovians. How about something not Jovian for once? ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/9 "2024-01-05T23:55:30Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/0/a/50ab0b0269e48ce80b442f55d2270a00fd55923d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/10 "2024-01-06T01:17:14Z")
There were Jovian ships in the game at one point, but they were removed. Not sure why… maybe CCP has future plans for them. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/d/16d61065e6e848617cd6cf724dcc234a41f27638.png) ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/11 "2024-01-06T01:28:20Z")
**WTB Jovian Visitant Battleship** (too bad it’s a hauler, but it would be dope as a battleship) ![ENvdlvlXsAEp-IZ.jpg-large](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/2/1/121715e30141f6308d11852311e5f123f75881c7.jpeg) Jovian ships were only usable by devs before removal from the game in Rubicon 1.3. ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/12 "2024-01-06T03:32:55Z")
I knew someone who had an Eidolon (I saw it,) who was not a dev. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/13 "2024-01-06T03:43:19Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Aren’t Trigs Jovians? Just like Sleepers and Drifters Trigs are not Jovians. Just another human group in New Eden. Don’t know if there’s any lore on their origins. Sleepers and Drifts are “related” to Jovs. Lots of lore on that. Sleepers and Drifters don’t like Trigs because Trigs also manipulate the fabric of space. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/14 "2024-01-06T05:19:09Z")
Uriel did it not me ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/15 "2024-01-06T06:54:31Z")
> [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > Trigs are not Jovians. > [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > Sleepers and Drifts are “related” to Jovs. They’re all break off groups from the 2nd Jovian Empire. The 3rd Jovian Empire is the one that died recently. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/16 "2024-01-06T18:49:53Z")
The Gnosis is a Jove Battlecruiser… All the other SoCT ships are based on Jovian design. ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/17 "2024-01-07T16:16:16Z")
If Jovians are dead you could add derelict Jovian ships and stations for people to discover, reverse engineer and or even refurbish. Or dont ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/18 "2024-01-07T16:16:56Z")
Sleepers are kind of this. ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/19 "2024-01-07T16:17:05Z")
Noone cares about those? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-add-triglavian-and-edencom-and-not-jovian/435127/20 "2024-01-07T16:17:39Z")
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