# Why alpha and Omega accounts and not just simply civilian **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [July 4, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115 "2022-07-04T18:12:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![A8ina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a8ina/32/396998_2.png) [@A8ina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A8ina)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/1 "2022-07-04T18:12:57Z")
Eve online always had the civilian line of equipment why not simply create the civilian account instead of alpha I mean is so intuitive , ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/2 "2022-07-04T18:55:34Z")
Make alpha accts civilian for the win! đŸ€Ș ---
**Author:** ![Terak\_Romaller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terak_romaller/32/374271_2.png) [@Terak\_Romaller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terak_Romaller)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/3 "2022-07-04T19:13:24Z")
Most of the population of the New Eden cluster, measured in the _trillions_ aren’t Capsuleers. They are baselines without access to cloning and pod technology. So, there are two “classes” of capsuleer - Omega, with all the neural integration and quick bake Alpha with less access. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/4 "2022-08-09T02:53:18Z")
wouldn’t that just lead to confusion considering alphas aren’t restricted to civilian equipment? Alpha and Omega clone grades are just a nod to the old clone grades that used to be in the game. You used to need to upgrade your clone as you got more and more SP. If you got podded and had a clone that wasn’t ratted for your total SP pool you would lose SP. ---
**Author:** ![Dredwerkz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dredwerkz/32/282494_2.png) [@Dredwerkz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dredwerkz)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/5 "2022-08-09T04:53:55Z")
+1 No skin in the game, I think you should be limited to a warp scram that only works on civilians. ---
**Author:** ![A8ina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a8ina/32/396998_2.png) [@A8ina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A8ina)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/6 "2022-08-09T19:40:30Z")
That used to be a fee for pirates 😁 ---
**Author:** ![A8ina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a8ina/32/396998_2.png) [@A8ina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A8ina)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/7 "2022-08-09T19:41:31Z")
I wonder what government is in Eve universe đŸ€” ---
**Author:** ![Terak\_Romaller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terak_romaller/32/374271_2.png) [@Terak\_Romaller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terak_Romaller)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/8 "2022-08-09T20:17:41Z")
The Will of God, as expressed through the Empress. All other forms are corrupt delusions. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-alpha-and-omega-accounts-and-not-just-simply-civilian/369115/9 "2022-11-07T20:18:07Z")
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