# Why antigank? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** pvp\ **Created:** [May 28, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469 "2023-05-28T18:16:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/303 "2023-06-18T06:41:09Z")
It was his idea, completely! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/304 "2023-06-18T08:20:00Z")
> [@Srima\_Darkstar](#): > > I have to eat fecal matter as well > [@Srima\_Darkstar](#): > > I decide to go that route Wierdo > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > I passed his test! No need to gank you, you doing a good enough job yourself ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/4/2847ce941b0849b5c5133f5a4ee50ffef80f0e68.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_BeerMonster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_beermonster/32/495729_2.png) [@Captain\_BeerMonster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_BeerMonster)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/305 "2023-06-18T10:29:04Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I’m so lucky your opinion count for nothing Then why did you waste your time replying to me with a wall of text that I didn’t even read? Seems you just proved my point that you guys are experts in wasting your own time. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/306 "2023-06-18T10:58:14Z")
> [@Srima\_Darkstar](#): > > Exactly what I would expect a bunch of substandard pirates to say. > > “_Why would you use a corvette after you’ve left the tutorial?_” I guess you hadn’t heard that is a free ship, and no they didn’t catch me, my pod got away. I would have been most impressed, if they would have caught my Miasmos passing through loaded to the top with gas. Then all of you could have a good horse laugh at me. Lol…you have to be a pretty substandard capsuleer not to have the _mere_ 10K ISK required for a shuttle, and not to grasp that a shuttle aligns in 1.7 seconds whereas a corvette aligns in 5.4 seconds. And a shuttle has almost twice the warp speed…so you get places faster. HINT : You can get the 10K ISK for a shuttle with a mere _30 seconds_ of mining in a Venture. You don’t really even have the excuse that shuttles are only available in hubs, as you can easily fit a packaged shuttle inside a Gnosis ( you can fit 2 inside a Praxis ) and set up shuttles wherever you intend to be. I have them all over Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Quadra\_Frost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quadra_frost/32/415160_2.png) [@Quadra\_Frost](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quadra_Frost)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/307 "2023-06-18T15:46:28Z")
Touché. The little salty denounced tags, but her inner carebear ruled the roost. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/308 "2023-06-18T19:19:58Z")
Others may read what you think AG is , just putting my side across for them , we need to keep it balanced. Besides with your 1st reply I thought you may want to debate and ganking and ag ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/309 "2023-06-18T19:43:14Z")
May I ask you a honest question Githany? What I never have understood about NEPF is the following: While you guys seem to roleplay AntiGanking for quite some time (well I don’t really witness it because you are not in my Timezone I guess), you still miss the most important part: the education and time-sensitive information of the public. You know, I have visited your website and its all nice and shiny and full of info about what you guys are doing, but where is the really important part? Where is the actually well-maintained list of active ganker-corps/alliances that people should set red (yes, at least weekly updated)? Where is the section for useful fittings that make any gank-attempt at least costly and non-profitable? Where is the link-section to useful tools like the gatecamp-streams, route-checker, zkill/ganked. The list of hotspot systems to be careful about? I can not find a schedule for (semi-)public fleets where interested people could join and assist you with RR, Fleetboost, DPS, Jams or whatever? Where is the list of officers to contact in which timezone to get in contact with you? Yeah i know one can always write a mail or join discord, but you have to realize that not many people will actually do that. If a player hears about ganking (or gets ganked the first time) and google it, your website has to be the #1 source of quick and reliable information about how ganking works and how one can avoid being ganked. And if one has any interest to assist you, he has to find info how he can do that within 3 clicks. Please excuse the direct words, but what the gankers do is a highly professionalized business and you have literally zero chance to be any noticable counterpart to that without at least showing the same level of professionality. And for a “police force” that means: service to the public first and then as much presence at the hotspots as possible second. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/310 "2023-06-18T19:53:04Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > I don’t really witness it because you are not in my Timezone She is not in anybody’s timezone, atleast that is her excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_BeerMonster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_beermonster/32/495729_2.png) [@Captain\_BeerMonster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_BeerMonster)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/311 "2023-06-18T20:01:02Z")
Very good point. The answer I believe is rather simple, they don’t really care about saving people or preventing ganking. They just want to pad their killboards and waste everybody’s time. Providing a useful service and helping people would actually be a detriment to their objectives. ---
**Author:** ![Quadra\_Frost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quadra_frost/32/415160_2.png) [@Quadra\_Frost](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quadra_Frost)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/312 "2023-06-18T23:55:28Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Please excuse the direct words, but what the gankers do is a highly professionalized business and you have literally zero chance to be any noticable counterpart to that without at least showing the same level of professionality. And for a “police force” that means: service to the public first and then as much presence at the hotspots as possible second. 🤔 I can’t see the attraction to perform as an “AG”: having to please the “public” - and most likely never meeting everyone’s expectation. Not to mention - feeding Aiko’s repeat narrative → “AG’s fail again”. I always wondered about the source of this huff-and-puff while she amuses me with content that feeds my trolling. Tough business you’re in @Githany_Red - is it ever rewarding? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/313 "2023-06-19T02:10:03Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I myself have stopped many ganks , > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Proof required. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Later it’s late for me, I’ll dig out the save mails for you tomorrow > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Anyone, including your alts can write mails. > > Screenshots or some other verified 3rd party site or it never happened. > > It’s to easy to dry lab something like this. Still waiting for that proof that you actually stopped a gank. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/314 "2023-06-19T04:57:27Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Still waiting for that proof that you actually stopped a gank. I was being sarcastic about the save mail , obviously they don’t exist like km do. Other than that I don’t care if don’t believe me I have two alts doing a bit of AG stuff right now but my main is off doing other stuff right now ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/315 "2023-06-19T04:59:59Z")
Wow, so you mean there is better content than antiganking? Who is your main? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/316 "2023-06-19T05:03:45Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Who is your main? I’m not gonna tell you… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/317 "2023-06-19T07:08:47Z")
I think I know! ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/318 "2023-06-19T07:20:40Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Wow, so you mean there is better content than antiganking? > > Who is your main Sorry never made it clear , alts are aging and my main Githany is doing other stuff or will be when I get my act together. Btw with all the null fleets forming around perimeter are you targeting anyone in particular or is it your normal kill anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/319 "2023-06-19T07:22:19Z")
I would not worry too much, they failed to notice or acknowledge Eskati saving a lot of stuff at the TTT. It amuses me that they ask for proof. With that stupidity they openly state that they don’t even know that effective AG leaves no traces of what went down, it could be ignorance, and it proves their ignorance, and it should be treated with the contempt that it deserves. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I was being sarcastic about the save mail , obviously they don’t exist like km do. That was pretty perfect, nicely played. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/320 "2023-06-19T07:33:32Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > effective AG leaves no traces Well, you are doing a great job! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/321 "2023-06-19T08:24:20Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/e/b/5eb267c9fa37f497667ad7912e4b576d8e38c3a5.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/322 "2023-06-19T10:12:28Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > > effective AG leaves no traces > > Well, you are doing a great job! Again proving your lack of ability in observation and extreme level of ignorance, it is pretty evident that I am not currently doing any AG as I am not currently playing. But do continue, as you are want to do, every time you reply to me and make a dig like this, you just look like a bigger dipstick. 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469.md?page=17)