# Why Are (Most) Cosmetics Gendered? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 23, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635 "2018-07-23T03:53:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/109 "2018-07-24T16:01:33Z")
lol, project much? ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/110 "2018-07-24T16:10:52Z")
Well you called them people having “mental disorders”. It shows me that you’re weak. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/111 "2018-07-24T16:24:16Z")
i prefer the sick to be healed. Standing around and wallowing in shared misery doesn’t seem productive to me. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/112 "2018-07-24T16:30:52Z")
Why don’t you go find a doctor then? The only one miserable is you. I don’t know if medicine can help you to grow a heart and a backbone to lead you out of this impotent rage you’re in. Hope it does. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/113 "2018-07-24T16:43:07Z")
Again with the projection. I’m not overly concerned with someone wanting to define him- or herself as katnip-otherkin or whatever. Doesn’t mean I have to play along with their make-believe; I reserve that for little kids and their tea-parties. Except for the ones who identify as Apache Attack Helicopters. Those people have set clear and praise worthy life goals so if they ever need any help loading ammo or shelling rebel villages I’m always willing to assist. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/114 "2018-07-24T16:48:56Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > Again with the projection. I’m not overly concerned with someone wanting to define him- or herself as katnip-otherkin or whatever. Doesn’t mean I have to play along with their make-believe; And no one will stop you from defining yourself as a man, but other people who define themselves in the same manner, might rightfully ask themselves why they would want to share a group identity with someone they have so little in common with. You show great weakness in your attempt to intervene in other peoples life. You make it your business to harass them. A strong person doesn’t do that. ---
**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/115 "2018-07-24T16:51:42Z")
> [@Abaris\_Fagimasad](#): > > I’ve been wondering this for a while and when I noticed that eyewear is mysteriously exempt from the apparently pointless division of the sexes for attire it made this distinction seem even more arbitrary so I’m assuming there’s some hidden or technical reason I’m not aware of. > > Most items have a male and female counterpart anyways, but this division means that it’s twice as hard to find a cosmetic you’re looking for since there’s only a roughly 50% chance your character will be able to wear any item. When you get cosmetic rewards from promo codes or from Project Discovery you get two items, one for each gender. I know I can just pass off those items to an alt, and one of the characters on my account is a man specifically just so I can offload all my duplicate cosmetics onto him, but it just seems a bit awkward. > > I understand that a lot of people who play EVE are older and wealthier (ergo, more conservative) so in a more toxic environment I could see CCP catering to the sensibility that gender is extremely important and that everything must be perfectly divided, but if your demographic thinks there really needs to be “male” and “female” baseball caps I don’t know why you’d even bother to make female avatars in the first place. It probably follows from all the stuff available coming from much older, more primitive days in human history. After all, real Capsuleers do not wear underwear. We go naked in our pods, and that is how it is. So when we come out, accustomed to all that liberty, nobody puts on underwear. The slightly more detailed version is this: catheters and other such crap. Stuff goes in places nothing really should go, so when you come out you don’t want anything itching. Ergo, freedom. It’s only for marketing purposes that CCP draws on underwear. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/116 "2018-07-24T16:52:12Z")
If someone draws a circle and calls it a square, that does not obligate others to agree. If the purveyor of false geometry insists on legitimacy, opposition becomes necessary - John C. Wright ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/117 "2018-07-24T17:34:35Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > I don’t want to spoil this for you, but it is necessary: most people use Internet to echo their opinions by talking exclusively with people who think like them, and only engage people who think differently to attack them and their opinions. As is in evidence right here in this thread. The original question was an interesting one with regard to why certain assets are handled the way they are, but now the thread seems to have devolved. Seems to be the case when ever gender is mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/118 "2018-07-24T18:39:19Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > If someone draws a circle and calls it a square, that does not obligate others to agree. If the purveyor of false geometry insists on legitimacy, opposition becomes necessary - John C. Wright “Citing wacko pretend-to-be-science-fiction, but really just fiction authors with some nonsense that tries to make the citing party look like they’re right, is the act of an idiot” - Captain America ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/125 "2018-07-24T19:38:00Z")
You really need to look into those anger issues of yours. Also, if you don’t like to get called out on the forum then choose your crowd more wisely. Birds of a feather etc. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/127 "2018-07-24T19:58:20Z")
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**Author:** ![Mark\_O\_Helm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_o_helm/32/154936_2.png) [@Mark\_O\_Helm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_O_Helm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/128 "2018-07-24T20:21:11Z")
She is called Michael because her parents named her that. Easy answer. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_O\_Helm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_o_helm/32/154936_2.png) [@Mark\_O\_Helm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_O_Helm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/131 "2018-07-24T21:10:15Z")
Nobody is forced to care for others. But are tolerance and acceptance really too much to ask for? And yes, Steven Universe is a Kids Show. But it goes so much deeper. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/132 "2018-07-24T21:44:14Z")
> [@Abaris\_Fagimasad](#): > > you get two items, one for each gender Two genders? Ha! You still live in 2017, don’t you. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/134 "2018-07-24T21:49:53Z")
![when-u-realize-that-spanish-words-only-cater-to-two-24599017](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/4/14d25f42acd55abc99ad0abfe66e8cda4894cade.png) ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/135 "2018-07-24T21:50:28Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > The face you make when you’re in biology class and realize there are only two genders… And what about when you learn of the wrasses, clownfish and slugs? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/136 "2018-07-24T21:52:08Z")
Fortunately, wrasses, clownfish, and slugs don’t attempt to enact legislation upon the rest of us… ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/137 "2018-07-24T22:00:55Z")
Which leads to “manufacture” female gender to “visualize” women who do the job… and then , say both names: _los carpinteros y las carpinteras…_ And that’s not the worst. Oh, no. Some minoritary crackpots are saying that we should use “e” to build neutral gender as to not “invisibilize” the other minorities: _los niños / las niñas / les niñes_ And shall we add also use “i” for _“lis idiotis”_ and _“lis gilipollis”_… ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635/138 "2018-07-24T22:08:32Z")
I dunno, DOMA for instance… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-most-cosmetics-gendered/91635.md?page=7)