# Why are my miners being killed off in 0.8 hisec by rats? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 30, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753 "2019-08-30T11:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/1 "2019-08-30T11:33:46Z")
So my love/hate relationship with EVE over the last ten years continues! So I decided to quit EVE for a zillionth time, and to comeback for the zillionth and first time, so I decide to chill in in a Kador 0.8 hisec system (Salah), mining in my trusty Venture just for fun, (Alpha is more fun than Omega for me now, no more chasing that 500 PLEX a month), drones out for protection against the flimsy hisec rats, I come back a few minutes later and the Venture is dead because of Triglavians in 0.8 hisec killing miners. Are these Triglavians all over hisec hunting miners? I think I may quit for the zillionth and second time! ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/2 "2019-08-30T11:37:28Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > Are these Triglavians all over hisec hunting miners? Yes. Don’t be AFK. They don’t point, so you are free to run. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/3 "2019-08-30T11:40:16Z")
Your minerS? Alpha? Do explain. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/4 "2019-08-30T11:40:34Z")
What about ice mining orcas which are designed by CCP to do AFK mining with drones, you actually have to be staring at your orca mining now, for two hours till the cargo fills? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/5 "2019-08-30T11:41:24Z")
I’ve lost two _precious_ Ventures in two days. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/6 "2019-08-30T11:42:05Z")
They are not designed to mine AFK. At best they’re designed to be an alt account ship, together with your non-afk miners. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/7 "2019-08-30T11:44:48Z")
Nothing in EvE is designed for AFK. CCP battles AFK gameplay wherever they can because of botting. The Trigs are one part of that campain, they do about 300 DPS (and go for drones first), so plenty of time to get your Orca out. You may set your shield alarm to a higher value. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/8 "2019-08-30T11:47:37Z")
So they kill even the ice mining drones which the other rats usually leave alone??? If that’s the case, no wonder the Eve population is dwindling. Nobody is going to stare at Orcas mining. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/9 "2019-08-30T11:48:33Z")
Yeah, the botters and AFK farmers leaving. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/10 "2019-08-30T11:49:10Z")
^ this ^ Want to change this ? Find friends, and or make friends, and you can chat and thus NOT play AFK. Also you will make more money by being in a fleet with an orca. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/11 "2019-08-30T11:50:33Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > I come back a few minutes later ☠ If you are threatening to leave because you can’t AFK mine then you wont be missed at all… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/12 "2019-08-30T11:52:25Z")
I don’t care what people say, when CCP gave Orcas the ability to ice mine, they Obviously intended that to be an AFK activity. If CCP is back-peddling now by getting the Triglavians attacking AFK Orcas, than what’s the point of allowing them to mine ice in the fist place??? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/13 "2019-08-30T11:53:33Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > when CCP gave Orcas the ability to ice mine, they Obviously intended that to be an AFK activity. WTF ? Prove it. It definitely is not “obvious”. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/14 "2019-08-30T11:54:44Z")
Have you seen ice belts in High sec? They are almost all AFK Orcas (Well maybe till these Triglavians, haven’t been on for a couple of weeks) ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/15 "2019-08-30T11:55:20Z")
not related. Just because people _do_ something does not mean CCP made it by wanting it to be exactly that way. Other wise are you claiming that CCP specifically intended to make drone regions a russian bot area ? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/16 "2019-08-30T11:55:22Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > They are almost all AFK Orcas Yes, and CCP is about to correct this. But why you care, you cant fly an Orca with Alpha. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/17 "2019-08-30T11:56:20Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > CCP Obviously intended that to be an AFK activity …and people still wonder why CODE exists… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/18 "2019-08-30T11:56:53Z")
CODE is dying, haven’t been bumped by CODE for years ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/19 "2019-08-30T11:57:42Z")
So you are claiming relations that actually are not based on anything ? Please stop it’s just a waste of time -.- ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/20 "2019-08-30T11:57:49Z")
I know I can’t now, just discussing the principle of the thing [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753.md?page=2)