# Why are my miners being killed off in 0.8 hisec by rats? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 30, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753 "2019-08-30T11:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/61 "2019-08-30T15:36:46Z")
My bet is that come the winter mega-content, HS is going to see most NPC stations nuked by invaders… That’s where my money is… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/62 "2019-08-30T15:46:28Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Yes, and one of those roles was AFK high sec miner. And, why is that even a bad thing? Were they outstripping Rorquals in null? Who said it’s a bad thing ? > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > We have to look at what they DID and what they DID was give a bonus to the orca IN GENERAL, that is NOT IN THE SPECIFIC CASE OF AFK. So people who say “CCP had the intent to encourage AFK orca” are wrong, period. > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > And, just because they do not intend some outcome, that doesn’t mean that some change they made cannot still bring about that unintended outcome. #emergent And just because this outcome happened, does not mean it was intended, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Nisanthro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nisanthro/32/169173_2.png) [@Nisanthro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nisanthro)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/63 "2019-08-30T15:55:40Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > mining in my trusty Venture just for fun If you’re trying to have fun mining, no wonder you quit a zillion times. > [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > I come back a few minutes later… Complaining you’re not having fun while away from the game? 🙄 o/ ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/64 "2019-08-30T16:07:38Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > I don’t care what people say no point informing you of the facts then is there. ---
**Author:** ![Dragos\_Highwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragos_highwind/32/170517_2.png) [@Dragos\_Highwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragos_Highwind)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/65 "2019-08-30T16:10:13Z")
New flash, Orca’s are mining support ships. They were given Ice Mining drones, so that the poor pilot that is boosting his fleet at least can pull in some ice too. However, players turned it into a AFK mining bastion. CCP fixed the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/66 "2019-08-30T16:48:30Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Want to change this ? Find friends, and or make friends, wtf are you thinking this is a online game meant for solo play! the only friends you can have are your alts, some people have a huge network of friends being their 100 accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/67 "2019-08-30T17:09:40Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > I think I may quit for the zillionth and second time! Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Miulan\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miulan_ng/32/167268_2.png) [@Miulan\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miulan_Ng)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/68 "2019-08-30T20:32:34Z")
[Talking in Stations](https://www.talkinginstations.com/) has some informative segments describing Triglavian recon squadrons, as does [this other](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/269) forum thread. ---
**Author:** ![Miulan\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miulan_ng/32/167268_2.png) [@Miulan\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miulan_Ng)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/69 "2019-08-30T20:35:36Z")
Almost all of my alts _hate_ me… ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/70 "2019-08-30T20:43:06Z")
> [@When EVE goes too far and its time to call it a day after 14 years](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-eve-goes-too-far-and-its-time-to-call-it-a-day-after-14-years/63182/79): > > My alts always steal from my wallet. frowning ---
**Author:** ![Natashalynn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natashalynn/32/142458_2.png) [@Natashalynn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natashalynn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/71 "2019-08-30T20:51:49Z")
I really hope they change Trig behavior to where they warp into ice belts. From what I have seen of Trig behavior…they do not like ice atm. Have seen them at pocos, structures, planets, gates and asteriod belts but not anomalies sadly. They are tricky and fun to fight. Great time to introduce them with BO going on in null. ---
**Author:** ![Glyken\_Touchon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glyken_touchon/32/431685_2.png) [@Glyken\_Touchon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glyken_Touchon)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/72 "2019-08-30T21:21:53Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > I’ve lost two _precious_ Ventures in two days. A basic venture pays for itself in ~10minutes of mining, so one every day or so shouldn’t really be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/73 "2019-08-30T22:25:07Z")
Most people in hubs will give them to you if you ask nicely… ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/74 "2019-08-31T00:35:28Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > I come back a few minutes later Found the problem ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/75 "2019-08-31T06:06:35Z")
> [@Glyken\_Touchon](#): > > A basic venture pays for itself in ~10minutes of mining in 2 minutes of doing project discovery while mining or spinning capsule/corvette in the dock. ---
**Author:** ![Videles\_Silenthunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/videles_silenthunter/32/474024_2.png) [@Videles\_Silenthunter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Videles_Silenthunter)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/76 "2019-08-31T09:02:38Z")
> [@Peter\_Raptor](#): > > hey kill even the ice mining drones which the other rats usually leave alone??? > If that’s the case, no won ITs there customers playing their game, if they like to semi afk mine, they enjoy that and they are paying for the game, why combat that? They can also release new ships and citadels that require much more ores etc. to sink it again. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/77 "2019-08-31T09:16:51Z")
> [@Videles\_Silenthunter](#): > > why combat that Bots​​​ ---
**Author:** ![Aziroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aziroth/32/168707_2.png) [@Aziroth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aziroth)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/78 "2019-08-31T09:20:24Z")
AFK = Death ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/79 "2019-08-31T11:02:35Z")
> [@Videles\_Silenthunter](#): > > why combat that? Because as it was there way no difference between an active miner and an afk one, income wise. Different effort levels but same payout and that needs to change. And of course, as stated: bots. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753/80 "2019-08-31T19:04:49Z")
I just want to hang out and chill with my friends in CS but jerks keep shooting us. We paid for this, pls change it so we can. Ta. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-my-miners-being-killed-off-in-0-8-hisec-by-rats/186753.md?page=5)