# Why are there none of this type of ship?

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**Created:** [February 19, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042 "2019-02-19T06:48:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Abdul\_Alhazzred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdul_alhazzred/32/120679_2.png) [@Abdul\_Alhazzred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdul_Alhazzred)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/1 "2019-02-19T06:48:56Z")

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why does ccp make so many pirate ships but none of the pirate ship are for mining

it is well known many of the pirates make booster but how? i will laugh if they use skiff. how do they collect gasses?

also many pirates have battleship and some even have concept art of capital so we know they are coming…where do they get their minerals? jita alts lol?

why ccp always discriminate against miners. right now the only way to be a pirate miner is if i wear an eye patch irl when i look for veldsparrrrrrrr

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/2 "2019-02-19T07:27:23Z")

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You do realize that all the mining ships from smallest to largest are a part of Ore Minings lineup and Ore is based in null sec. They are a pirate null sec faction by the games standards.

Now that being said I wonder what you would propose for a truly pirate, read dual race ship with dual racial bonuses, mining ship. Btw suggestions or ideas is in another channel on the forums.

I eagerly await all ears.

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**Author:** ![Abdul\_Alhazzred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdul_alhazzred/32/120679_2.png) [@Abdul\_Alhazzred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdul_Alhazzred)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/3 "2019-02-19T07:29:37Z")

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oh i thought ore was gallente

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/4 "2019-02-19T07:32:23Z")

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We us Gallente racials to build and operate Ore ships but Ore itself is Outer Ring Mining which is in null sec.

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**Author:** ![Dacen\_Windayack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dacen_windayack/32/122048_2.png) [@Dacen\_Windayack](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dacen_Windayack)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/5 "2019-02-19T08:12:56Z")

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ORE is their own faction, but has standings greater with Gallente and Minmatar and use Gallente stations. So sort of like an off-shoot of them. That being said, no empire faction has their own miners. And being in NPC null, being friendly with pirates who mine, seems prudent. So they likely try their best to fulfill and of their orders as well

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**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/6 "2019-02-19T08:13:28Z")

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Some Ore lore: [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Outer\_Ring\_Excavations](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Outer_Ring_Excavations)

From a practical standpoint, a look at the mineral price index in the most recent economic report shows massive overproduction of minerals. To restore balance CCP is either going to have to nerf the harvest or significantly increase mineral consumption.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/d/0d0bc0a321671197f671f47a7b5214963eee4bbb.png)

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**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/7 "2019-02-19T08:38:25Z")

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> [@Abdul\_Alhazzred](#):
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> oh i thought ore was gallente

LOL!!!

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/8 "2019-02-19T12:54:30Z")

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ORE ships are primarily build with Gallente technology which is why they share many attributes with their ships. Similarly Sisters of EVE (SoE) ships are a mix of Amarr and Gallente technologies so they share characteristics from their ships.

Same goes for the actual Pirate Factions, they too has mixed technologies:

- Angel Cartel ships is a mix of Minmatar and Gallente.
- Blood Raider Covenant ships is a mix of Amarr and Minmatar.
- Guristas Pirates ships is a mix of Caldari and Gallente.
- Serpentis ships is a mix of Gallente and Minmatar.
- Sansha’s Nation ships is a mix of Amarr and Caldari.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-there-none-of-this-type-of-ship/141042/9 "2019-05-20T12:54:35Z")

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