# Why are Triglavians shooting each other ... and me, who fights for them?

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**Created:** [November 25, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-triglavians-shooting-each-other-and-me-who-fights-for-them/281698 "2020-11-25T10:01:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-are-triglavians-shooting-each-other-and-me-who-fights-for-them/281698/19 "2020-11-25T18:25:39Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Can’t put that blame on me when I’m only acting after the fact.

The slaughter is _ongoing_. You are not ‘after the fact’.

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Besides, there’s no evidence of anyone being harmed at all.

Hmmm.

> [@From the Scope](#):
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> \* DISMAY IN MINMATAR REPUBLIC AS BIZARRE FOOTAGE OF TRIGLAVIAN ACTIVITIES ON SKARKON II BROADCAST ON GALNET
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> \* REPORTS OF PERUN CLADE ADAPTING AND DRAFTING CIVILIAN POPULATION INTO MILITARY UNITS IN KOMO SYSTEM

> [@Or...](#):
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> [\* Svarog Clade Strikes on Skarkon Tribal Resistance Army Positions Reported as “Narrowly Missing” General Kril Efrit](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/galactic-hour-news-roundup-crackdowns-on-collaborators-cartels-and-cults-edition/)

> [@Or even...](#):
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> [Updated accounts of the final evacuation flights from Skarkon II and the former Republic Parliament station have told of Triglavian invasion units cutting off access to spaceports and docking bays during their final assaults on system infrastructure. It is claimed that Svarog units are particularly brutal and indiscriminate when attacking. The final flights to escape intact from the Parliament station have reported Svarog Clade carried out boarding assaults with heavy infantry equipped with powered armor, personal shields and kinetic weapons. A number of evacuation ships were trapped or heavily damaged, apparently leading to several being destroyed in space before they could escape.](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/galactic-hour-news-roundup-triglavian-totality-edition/)

Or a [first-hand account](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-death-throes-of-a-desert-planet/276453/14) perhaps?

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Worse considering who actually started this whole thing … and it wasn’ _them_.
> 
> Capsuleers invaded their space first …  
> … and murdered their people first.

Except… no. In fact, as was observed many times at the beginning of our dealings with the Trigs, _they invited us in_. That’s where the original filaments came from: from them. We certainly didn’t develop technology that interfaced with our warp drives in ways we still don’t _entirely_ understand in order to access space we didn’t know existed.

And when we got there? We were in skinner boxes, set up to test _us_. Again, as pointed out _numerous_ times: there’s no other reason for each ‘chamber’ to have a ‘please take this once you beat the others’ box full of goodies. It’s not like the _Trigs_ needed to get their hands on their own materials, or blueprints of their ships that just _happened_ to be set up for _our_ pods, or skillbooks encoded for _our_ data storage formats.

We were being tested. In their ‘Proving Grounds’. And we _enthusiastically_ participated, and made _damned_ sure they knew just what we could do. And they pretty quickly realized they could convince you folks to become ‘subornhost’ or whatever, to work for _them_. Even as they found ways to invite more of us into what are explicitly _arenas_, set up to fight _one another_ for their study, they compromised our data systems back here in k-space, manipulated the market, flooded the datastreams with their messages.

No, we didn’t start this.

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