# Why can't I change the role bonus for ARMOR HAC? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [February 12, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039 "2021-02-12T00:43:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kuramori\_Reika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuramori_reika/32/275071_2.png) [@Kuramori\_Reika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuramori_Reika)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/1 "2021-02-12T00:43:48Z")
_Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/1))_ Zealot, Sacrilege, Deimos… It’s a dead format. Maybe it’s time to change the bonus from Microwarpdrive to Afterburner for ARMOR HAC? For example + 50% to the speed on Afterburner. Does it break the balance so much? Zealot with 900m per second on Afterburner. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/2 "2021-02-12T02:19:16Z")
Why don’t you just fly the Phantasm then? ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/3 "2021-02-12T02:45:00Z")
Or an Trig Iki! ---
**Author:** ![Kuramori\_Reika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuramori_reika/32/275071_2.png) [@Kuramori\_Reika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuramori_Reika)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/4 "2021-02-12T10:03:23Z")
Because Phantasm is not a HAC. Poor damage resistance. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/5 "2021-02-12T12:49:20Z")
“50% speed bonus would be insane. Plus, I like armor hacs such as the Deimos and the Ikitursa,” he says as his pants tighten. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/6 "2021-02-12T21:52:49Z")
Why not just fly Legions? ---
**Author:** ![Kuramori\_Reika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuramori_reika/32/275071_2.png) [@Kuramori\_Reika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuramori_Reika)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/7 "2021-02-13T22:54:45Z")
Expensive ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/8 "2021-02-15T11:41:58Z")
And surely HACs aren’t ? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Creampie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_creampie/32/272272_2.png) [@Captain\_Creampie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_Creampie)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/9 "2021-02-15T12:31:59Z")
Deimos , Sac always have been a niche especially for solo // small gang aslong as I can remember (2008) and thats fine. Ab Zealots are still good. Just not as good as your normie Cerbs or Eagles. Some proper drones or a utility high on the Zealot could already work wonders. Idk… There will always be the meta. From Perma Drakes to Tengus to Armor Hacs to Muninns and Cerbs to Slowcats. Nerf/Buff and it wont take long until something else takes the place. Hacs are in a decent spot imho. The zealot could need a little love though. ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/10 "2021-02-16T12:49:40Z")
Obligatory ‘Armor HACs, ARMOR HACS, ARMOR HACS!’ Nah, but seriously, I so miss warp to 0, in your face heavy armor brawls. Gimme those all day every day. All this nano-y running around in kitey shield crap the game has tended towards in the sub-cap department for the last several years has really dampened my fire for it. Sure, there are a few instances here and there of them happening, but muninns and feroxes and ishtars before and eagles and… no more, CCPlease. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-cant-i-change-the-role-bonus-for-armor-hac/295039/11 "2021-05-17T12:50:24Z")
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