# Why do all Solar systems in EVE only have one sun?

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**Created:** [December 18, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016 "2017-12-18T01:02:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Seventh\_Pain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seventh_pain/32/44432_2.png) [@Seventh\_Pain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Seventh_Pain)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/1 "2017-12-18T01:02:55Z")

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Most solar systems in the known universe have more then one star, i was wondering why does every solar system in EVE only have one?

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**Author:** ![Quelza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quelza/32/36089_2.png) [@Quelza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quelza)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/2 "2017-12-18T01:18:27Z")

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It’s a great question, particularly because CCP’s old “Scientific Article” on the mechanics of [interstellar travel](https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/interstellar-traveling/) and jump gate tech specifically states that the kind of gravitational conditions required for jump gate tech to work can only be found in binary systems.

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> Jump gates are built around artificial wormholes, created by exploiting gravitational resonances found in binary systems. This resonance is as a friction between gravitational waves of stellar objects, the more massive the objects, the stronger the resonance between them.

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**Author:** ![Syke\_Sylveste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syke_sylveste/32/43293_2.png) [@Syke\_Sylveste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syke_Sylveste)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/3 "2017-12-18T01:40:58Z")

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> [@Seventh\_Pain](#):
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> in the known universe

who says this is the same universe?

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**Author:** ![Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/disney_s_magic_kingdom/32/44531_2.png) [@Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Disney_s_Magic_Kingdom)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/4 "2017-12-18T01:47:55Z")

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I play elite: dangerous from time to time. The binary and triple star systems that actually move are pretty sweet

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**Author:** ![Pleasure\_Hub\_Node-514](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pleasure_hub_node-514/32/381326_2.png) [@Pleasure\_Hub\_Node-514](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pleasure_Hub_Node-514)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/5 "2017-12-18T02:56:11Z")

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They are fine indeed…

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/3/334af3de0a907c0f6736f2ed2e74f50e8a375471.png)

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**Author:** ![Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/disney_s_magic_kingdom/32/44531_2.png) [@Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Disney_s_Magic_Kingdom)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/6 "2017-12-18T03:47:15Z")

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Lol when I was new to E:D I made the false assumption that black holes couldn’t harm you…

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/7 "2017-12-18T11:59:52Z")

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> [@Seventh\_Pain](#):
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> Most solar systems in the known universe have more then one sun, i was wondering why does every solar system in EVE only have one?

This question is for Max Singularity.

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**Author:** ![Aergri\_Evingod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aergri_evingod/32/116437_2.png) [@Aergri\_Evingod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aergri_Evingod)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/8 "2017-12-18T12:04:42Z")

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> [@Quelza](#):
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> It’s a great question, particularly because CCP’s old “Scientific Article” on the mechanics of [interstellar travel](https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/interstellar-traveling/) and jump gate tech specifically state that the kind of gravitational conditions required for jump gate tech to work can only be found in binary systems.
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> > Jump gates are built around artificial wormholes, created by exploiting gravitational resonances found in binary systems. This resonance is as a friction between gravitational waves of stellar objects, the more massive the objects, the stronger the resonance between them.

okay so i have to imagine this or are those invisible brown dwarfs?

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**Author:** ![Tamazaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tamazaki/32/37007_2.png) [@Tamazaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tamazaki)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/9 "2017-12-18T12:27:38Z")

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I hadn’t thought about this before, but now you’ve brought it to my attention it’s going to bug me forever.

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**Author:** ![Memphis\_Baas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/memphis_baas/32/10413_2.png) [@Memphis\_Baas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Memphis_Baas)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/10 "2017-12-18T13:48:55Z")

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So the answer is that it’s probably an assumption in the game’s database. 1 star identifying each system, and each system’s xyz coordinates are actually centered on the star.

There are other deviations from astronomy: none of the planets, moons, asteroid belts, stations, gates actually rotate in their “orbit”. There’s friction, ships stop if the engines are off. Ships orient themselves to fly like planes. Server doesn’t actually calculate how your ship is oriented (everything is a ball with no orientation). There’s no time delay to see supernovas happening on the other side of the map, even though it’s more than a few light-YEARS wide. There’s a North in every solar system. Ships can’t actually go straight up and straight down (there must be the slightest angle from vertical).

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**Author:** ![Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/disney_s_magic_kingdom/32/44531_2.png) [@Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Disney_s_Magic_Kingdom)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/11 "2017-12-18T14:07:12Z")

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If I’m not mistaken, every moon and planet seem to be the same size regardless of what their details say.

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**Author:** ![Memphis\_Baas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/memphis_baas/32/10413_2.png) [@Memphis\_Baas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Memphis_Baas)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/12 "2017-12-18T14:16:03Z")

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So is every ship, actually. Well, more precisely, every ship’s texture. And it’s not just a side-effect that the external camera is proportionally linked to the ship size (you can’t zoom in past a certain point on your own ship - which makes all the ships look the same size at “maximum zoom”).

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**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/13 "2017-12-18T14:31:30Z")

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Some wormholes have two stars

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**Author:** ![Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/disney_s_magic_kingdom/32/44531_2.png) [@Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Disney_s_Magic_Kingdom)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/14 "2017-12-18T15:17:19Z")

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Is this true? I never do wh’s.

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**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/15 "2017-12-18T15:22:14Z")

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Yes. They are listed as wolf-rayet and cataclyamic variables in the wh databases.

[http://www.ellatha.com/eve/WormholeSystemview.asp?key=100046](http://www.ellatha.com/eve/WormholeSystemview.asp?key=100046)

That is one.

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**Author:** ![Vaari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaari/32/373419_2.png) [@Vaari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaari)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/16 "2017-12-18T15:27:07Z")

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Less than fracture of our galaxy system has been attached to the stargate network. We have only send construction ships to the one star system, because perhaps they were predicted to be more valuable and peaceful than multi star systems.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/17 "2017-12-18T15:50:04Z")

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> [@Seventh\_Pain](#):
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> Most solar systems in the known universe have more then one sun, i was wondering why does every solar system in EVE only have one?

There is only one solar system in the known universe and it has only one sun.

Just sayin’

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/disney_s_magic_kingdom/32/44531_2.png) [@Disney\_s\_Magic\_Kingdom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Disney_s_Magic_Kingdom)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/18 "2017-12-18T16:04:51Z")

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He speaks of Jita ofc.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/19 "2017-12-18T16:08:33Z")

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> [@Syke\_Sylveste](#):
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> who says this is the same universe?

CCP in the Lore its pretty much the logical conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-all-solar-systems-in-eve-only-have-one-sun/46016/20 "2017-12-18T19:41:05Z")

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Imagine the sun bounces if you could get your cap bumped by one of the stars in a binary system. Just park it in orbit and wait a couple days.

We must have this.

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