# Why Do We Even Have Forums? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 10, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344 "2018-07-10T21:57:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/283 "2018-07-14T11:55:16Z")
> [@Davlos](#): > > The **real** community ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/f/1ff088c812ddfc9a8e9da0520a7002bef1d5c2cf.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/284 "2018-07-14T11:57:05Z")
If you care so much about where CCP posts, you can start by not being boring, and stop making people laugh whenever they look your name up on zkill. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/285 "2018-07-14T11:58:57Z")
> [@Davlos](#): > > If you care so much about where CCP posts, you can start by not being boring, and stop making people laugh whenever they look your name up on zkill. 🎻 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/286 "2018-07-14T11:59:53Z")
> [@Davlos](#): > > and it’s boring. Stop being boring. Mechanics are boring, idea and features on mechanics should not be trolled in a properly run forum. CAOD should be like Reddit and a real free for all. So who is being boring, the trolls trolling people over mechanics? That is boring mate! Tediously boring. But trolling each other about their alliance in CAOD is fun and can be epic if it was allowed by CCP of course. As I said most people have no idea what a games forum should be like and that includes sadly the person responsible for this forum, because if he did, those trolls would be banned from the features and ideas section of the forums and be encouraged to go to town in CAOD… @Davlos I noticed that you are refusing to reply to this post, is that because you are just full of hot air mate? Or is it too boring for you? ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/287 "2018-07-14T12:00:07Z")
Hi person who is good at nothing but losing stuff in hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/288 "2018-07-14T12:00:18Z")
Its not my job or duty to entertain CCP staff. No one has issue with them reading through the player-moderated cesspit that is r/EVE for giggles. The issue is where they do post and respond, which should be on the official/moderated/paid for official forum, here. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/289 "2018-07-14T12:01:08Z")
Not small enough… ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/290 "2018-07-14T12:02:13Z")
> [@Davlos](#): > > Hi person who is good at nothing but losing stuff in hisec. Tell me what it is that makes you think you’re so much better than the rest? Do you even see yourself when you post all this sad, petty nonsense? Is there any life left in you, or is it all just a big cry out until you can cry no more? ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/291 "2018-07-14T12:03:48Z")
If whining about hisec miner bumping or the continued screaming for full PVP immunity in hisec led to high-profile media articles about the game, you’d be justified about the lack of developer attention to your boring self. Unfortunately for you, explosions among thousands of players is what generates the articles, which leads more players into the game. That’s where you’re boring to read about, and that’s why the real community (hi, MinerArt) isn’t here. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/292 "2018-07-14T12:05:17Z")
The argument from some seems to be that HS carebears post on EVE-O, and NS carebears post on reddit. That may well be true. But this isnt about where players post, its about where CCP staff posts. Do you understand the difference and what it entails? ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/293 "2018-07-14T12:05:29Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Tell me what it is that makes you think **your** so much better than the rest? I bolded the relevant bit for your reference, but that’s cheap on my part. **You’re** just irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/294 "2018-07-14T12:06:25Z")
> [@Davlos](#): > > the real community There are hundreds of communities within this game. To dictate that they only exist when you feel they are appropriate to exist is folly. Goonswarm does not only exist on reddit. Test does not only exist on reddit. CO2 does not only exist on reddit. Everything you say about “the real community” is basically “the community that I care about” rather than everybody that plays eve online. Edit: Sorry to every group I didn’t mention. I just don’t think anyone would read a full list of every major power block in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/295 "2018-07-14T12:06:28Z")
> [@Davlos](#): > > > [@Whitehound](#): > > > > Tell me what it is that makes you think **your** so much better than the rest? > > I bolded the relevant bit for your reference, but that’s cheap on my part. > > **You’re** just irrelevant. Thank you for correcting me. Now tell me why you’re crying here so much. ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/296 "2018-07-14T12:08:18Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > But this isnt about where players post, its about where CCP staff posts. > > Do you understand the difference and what it entails? Yes. Because null is more interesting to post about, and that’s where the game is really played. CCP staff want to participate more in discussion about null, and for good reason. I’m waiting for you to make good on your threat to email Polygon about what terrible people we are. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/297 "2018-07-14T12:11:11Z")
He is afraid of losing the Devs off reddit, where they can piss in their ear. He is afraid that to any objective observer, it doesnt make sense devs post more on a player-run site, than their own paid/dedicated/moderated official platform He is even more afraid, because the content and acts of player moderation in reddit result in a place that if an objective observer looked at the â– â– â– â–  there, would immediately ask why employed CCP staff patron it more than their own official platform. ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/298 "2018-07-14T12:13:02Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > There are hundreds of communities within this game. To dictate that they only exist when you feel they are appropriate to exist is folly. Goonswarm does not only exist on reddit. Test does not only exist on reddit. CO2 does not only exist on reddit. Everything you say about “the real community” is basically “the community that I care about” rather than everybody that plays eve online. Goons have Jabber and their own forums, TEST happens to be a Reddit-based alliance with their own forums, and I can’t claim to know much about CO2. I’m the TEST anomaly in posting here because I’m genuinely bored. The real community makes things explode and generates events which other people talk about. No one cares about how you’re only good at losing inconsequential junk in hisec. My cat could walk all over my keyboard and do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/299 "2018-07-14T12:14:07Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > He is afraid of losing the Devs off reddit, where they can piss in their ear. He is afraid that his subjective views on EVE don’t matter. And he knows it, too. ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/300 "2018-07-14T12:15:28Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > He is afraid of losing the Devs off reddit, where they can piss in their ear. > > He is afraid that to any objective observer, it doesnt make sense devs post more on a player-run site, than their own paid/dedicated/moderated official platform > > He is even more afraid, because the content and acts of player moderation in reddit result in a place that if an objective observer looked at the ■■■■ there, would immediately ask why employed CCP staff patron it more than their own official platform. Nothing to be afraid of. I work in game development myself. If my project’s forums were full of boring people like you, but the related subreddit had better discussion I’d post more on the latter, too. It’s not that hard to imagine or figure out. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/301 "2018-07-14T12:16:20Z")
When a moderator’s post of “F\*g” gets stickied and awarded 2gold stars, it raises the question wtf do they even have moderators for. If a moderator gets stickied and awarded for that, then WHAT are the moderators even moderating? ---
**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344/302 "2018-07-14T12:17:22Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > When a moderator’s post of “F\*g” gets stickied and awarded 2gold stars, it raises the question wtf do they even have moderators for. > > If a moderator gets stickied and awarded for that, then WHAT are the moderators even moderating? The gilding (or gold stars as you call it) were not from the moderators, but other members of the community. Anyone could pay real money to give to any post they particularly like. Just to spite you, I’ll track down that post and give it one more. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-we-even-have-forums/88344.md?page=16)