# Why do you play in Highsec space? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 1, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479 "2021-10-01T11:44:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/321 "2022-02-16T22:59:28Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > it needs to be split No, I’ve always been clear with these people - no splits, everything for Aiko. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/322 "2022-02-16T22:59:32Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > “Aiko is a hypocrite, cuz she’s making FISTFULS of isk/hr” So you _did_ understand what I was saying. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/323 "2022-02-16T22:59:53Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > So you _did_ understand what I was saying. No, I’m just trolling you, by pretending that you sound rational. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/324 "2022-02-16T23:04:16Z")
Yes, well I realise I’m on a forum where 2 + 2 is usually somewhere between 3 and 5 . I guess I need some time with spiders ( rats are cute and cuddly ) in room 101 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/325 "2022-02-16T23:05:02Z")
I feel like Cilla is trying to insult me, by calling me one of the wealthiest people in EvE. She’s not wrong about that, but I’m not sure it’s much of an insult. ---
**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/326 "2022-02-16T23:06:52Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > but I’m not sure it’s much of an insult. To the Lefties it’s a damnable offense. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/327 "2022-02-16T23:09:36Z")
> [@L\_Amour](#): > > To the Lefties it’s a damnable offense Ah…I can recommend the same psychiatrist I recommended above for your obsession with ‘crying’…he might also help with your obsession with anyone who disagrees being a ‘lefty’. I don’t recall ever stating my political views here…neither are they even relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_murk_udoria/32/421974_2.png) [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Murk_Udoria)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/328 "2022-02-17T01:32:54Z")
> [@Michelle\_Vega](#): > > Is it fear of the unknown or lack of friends the main reason not to play in 0.0 or what? > > Would be nice to see more people enjoying the real parts of space. To be honest, it is sort of reading a statement like that and thinking it defines the attitude of null sec toward other players and coming to the conclusion of ‘These people just want to use me for content, not be my friends, and they look down on me for liking what I like about Eve.’ Risk aversion is a part of it. Risk appetite varies from person to person. I like low sec, because I don’t as an individual doing blockade running have to deal with bubble spam (Not a non-starter, just eats away at my play time). But I can get out my BR, hop in something else, with locals I know, and small gang with other locals, and keep it cool. And also bug out when large groups pop in to try and make content out of all of us. For some, who have been out to null also, it got boring. It is very much Napoleonic war play. Form up, follow direction, aim, fire, reload muskets… Love FCs, appreciate what FCs do as a skill, and put up with. Lot of FCs on bomber runs I’d be honored to fly with. But between doctrines, forming up with limited play time, etc, etc, null sec can during big campaigns just not be a lot of fun for people like me as I am not playing, the FC is. That, and when advances break down, it is demoralizing like the French enroute during the Russian winter fiasco. Anyone who has been through a bad route, where the ‘Its just a game, those guys are other people we are cool with’ gets replaced with people looking for moles, losing their minds over what the current meta is, how sov is hopelessly broke, ad nauseum. I play for friendly competing, and hopefully mutual fun when I do PvP. Not to be mechanism for someone else’s ego in military adventurism for an internet spaceship empire. And sometimes, null sec leaves a bad taste in your mouth with regard to that. Sometimes you need to go away a while and come back to. Lastly, I like the folk you can come across in high sec. From actual noobs to Eve titans of trade and industry wanting to get a sense of what people are doing and how it will change the markets. Makes for a huge cross section of folks to interact with in ways outside NBSI. Eve is a lot of games. And sometimes we want to say others do it wrong, because we couldn’t imagine ourselves playing that way. Me, I just try to appreciate others, even if I don’t get it completely. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/329 "2022-02-17T02:54:19Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > he might also help with your obsession with anyone who disagrees being a ‘lefty’. Non-objective therapists are bad news. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/330 "2022-02-17T05:23:56Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Huh ? Anyone with a brain can see the irony. But I guess that counts out a lot of forum members. Mm no. You fell for the trolling 😃 Trust me, it is embarrassing for you 😃 > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > It means exactly what it says. The **irony** of someone who’s milked _7.5 trillion_ worth of ISK in Eve ( I figure that works out at about **87m ISK per hour.** …24/7…over 10 years ) claiming that they started ganking as a rebellion against all those ‘ISK per hour’ people who probably have _much less_ ISK involvement. Of course it is ironic. She only makes that much cause people bling their ships and don’t practice opsec 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/331 "2022-02-17T05:47:47Z")
Actually, it is simple for me. Nullsec is too far, and the most time I can manage to play eve is like two hours a week. I am planning to get started on FW in service of Minmatar though. I play eve for lore and the fact thar players can influence the lore, but I am aware true Eve gameplay lies on PVP. I have absolutely no respect for Code. and the PVE haters though. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/332 "2022-02-17T06:04:52Z")
> [@Octavech\_Raholan](#): > > I have absolutely no respect for Code. and the PVE haters though. Why are people not allowed to hate PvE? PvE is not a person. Do you also not respect people who hate macaroni, or wearing the color red? ---
**Author:** ![Michal\_Somebody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michal_somebody/32/494799_2.png) [@Michal\_Somebody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michal_Somebody)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/333 "2022-02-17T12:44:42Z")
> [@L\_Amour](#): > > > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > > > Honestly, what are you even trying to say? > > He’s saying: > PvP = bad. > PvE = good. > But he has to wrap that in many words so that he doesn’t look like he’s whining. No. Not even close. Try again. _PS. If you can read you can succeed…_ ---
**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/334 "2022-02-17T13:12:18Z")
> [@Michal\_Somebody](#): > > PS. If you can read you can succeed Qu’est-ce que tu raconte là 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Michal\_Somebody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michal_somebody/32/494799_2.png) [@Michal\_Somebody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michal_Somebody)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/335 "2022-02-17T13:26:02Z")
> [@L\_Amour](#): > > Qu’est-ce que tu raconte là It’s pretty clear, but you have a written comprehension problem remember? ---
**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/336 "2022-02-17T13:43:19Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Why are people not allowed to hate PvE? Because in those people’s mind PvE is commandable, gentle and caring and sweet and fluffy… ![original-13254-1445449423-8](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/7/6/f76297f9e98c85689a98216a782c92b71ae1cdb7.jpeg) … while PvP to them is brusque and brutal and mean and violent… ![violence](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/7/e/d7e1caafc2ae42891001fe3a973c9d03ac3ba803.jpeg) PvE : ![a6e4411758a5fb005672c0e363c9def2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/7/8/478310fdcf4280367dbc8740f6de77ab17eafd51.jpeg) PvP : ![darth-vader-star-wars-Obi-Wan-Kenobi](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/a/f/faf5b01ca5032d915c1b251c0afdc19ac2502586.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/337 "2022-02-17T17:53:04Z")
> [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](#): > > Risk aversion is a part of it. Risk appetite varies from person to person. I can run around highsec in a 10m ISK ship and generally I know I’m not going to get attacked by someone in a 200m ISK Vedmak, because nobody’s gonna waste a 200m ISK ship on a 10m ISK ship. Indeed, if I am mining ( for example ) one of the first things I look at in d-scan is the cost of any ship in range. If over a certain amount…I can be 99.99% certain it will not attack me. That is the true ‘security’ that highsec provides. Big combat ships become useless…unless against suspects or criminals. In nullsec the roles are completely reversed. So its not simply a question of degree but of kind as well. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/338 "2022-02-17T19:49:47Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > In nullsec the roles are completely reversed. So its not simply a question of degree but of kind as well. 😃 I love it when you slip up. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/339 "2022-02-18T00:00:14Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I love it when you slip up. Gix…you have never yet actually caught me out on anything. You are like Mutley trying to catch the pigeon. Here…have a crumb… ![d6eybtc-ce06e26a-4d48-4f43-ad51-4c47cd4a9b2b](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/8/d/d8d7c5a3dab268c8130bd14d4e41ff5d13071130.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/340 "2022-02-18T00:35:32Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Gix…you have never yet actually caught me out on anything. You are like Mutley trying to catch the pigeon. Here…have a crumb… LOL ok. You ducked DC hardcore when she exposed you too 😃 I just don’t get why the pretense. Also, when you gonna drop your main? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479.md?page=18)