# Why do you play in Highsec space? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 1, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479 "2021-10-01T11:44:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/381 "2022-04-01T17:43:50Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > My very first venture into lowsec ( let alone nullsec ) I got gate camped. Welcome to lowsec ! Only now ( 4 months later ) that I’m getting bored of highsec am I going back…and gonna explore nullsec too. cruisers like to cruise a t1 cruiser is the perfect ship for you if someone shot you , you shot back some times you win some times you die , or both but is super fun ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/382 "2022-04-01T17:48:14Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > some times you win some times you die , or both I’ve got over 100 ships, frigates, cruisers, battle cruisers, all sitting in dock crying out to be used…and without being blapped by Concord if I shoot someone. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/383 "2022-04-01T17:48:18Z")
Use the big map to see how many kills and poddings are recent in the system into which you are going to jump. Free intel. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/384 "2022-04-01T17:49:27Z")
And they don’t break to bank too much. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/385 "2022-04-01T17:49:47Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I’ve got over 100 ships, frigates, cruisers, battle cruisers, all sitting in dock crying out to be used…and without being blapped by Concord if I shoot someone. this is SUPER NICE you can play ia lot look at that a well know pirate from a well know corp in a well know camped gate insta locked me but i was in a combat ship ![Captura de Tela 2022-04-01 às 14.46.49](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/0/a/e0a7d6bd9feaa6d48308522126617adf9bea50f1.jpeg) > [@Leggone\_Stracks](#): > > And they don’t break to bank too much. dude i have 15 milion isk in my wallet ATM LOL 🤣 spent the rest i had on that stupid arena, its sooo different , a lot of theory , the tuskers and others kick my ass all the time , i don’t know why i do it ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/386 "2022-04-01T17:53:10Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/3/4/734b879371c99055f6f302c300513ff1327d43c4.jpeg "Carole King - Sweet Seasons (Official Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Se5rXbrsw) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/387 "2022-04-01T17:56:08Z")
That Gnosis is just 20K or so EHP. I created one yesterday with a 24km warp disruptor and 90K EHP. Without the warp disruptor is is almost 100K EHP. Almost half the entire cost ( 115m ISK ) is tech 2 shield rigs. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/388 "2022-04-01T17:56:59Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > That Gnosis is just 20K or so EHP. I created one yesterday with a 24km warp disruptor and 90K EHP. Without the warp disruptor is is almost 100K EHP. Almost half the entire cost ( 115m ISK ) is tech 2 shield rigs. that gnosis have at leas 80 k +++++ with 4 tank modules plate + rigs on the killmail they count the real HP not the EHP(effective hit points ) EHP is the HP with defences thats why the numbers are low example: my 100k + EHP auguror counts for 38k HP on a kill mail ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/389 "2022-04-02T00:52:46Z")
Why did you retire Cilla? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/390 "2022-04-02T01:38:54Z")
Is that her actual alt? ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/391 "2022-04-02T02:30:42Z")
Yeah 100%. She mentioned this one once talking about her attack on a Nereus that beat her. I just don’t know why Cilla had to go away. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/392 "2022-04-02T06:15:46Z")
Welp at least she’s finally putting her money where her mouth is 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/393 "2022-04-02T15:40:25Z")
I like to mine and steal ore from Princess! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/394 "2022-04-02T22:32:53Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > Why did you retire Cilla? Cilla isn’t retired. It’s just that due to moving all the skills queue to this account 3 or 4 months ago, Cilla is now waaay behind in skills points, and I’m not prepared to pay the cost of multiple skills queues. As Altara I’ve finally actively engaged in PvP…though mainly I am getting in masses of practice via PvE. Plus, after months of absence I’m back in lowsec again. Cilla has about 10 ships…Altara has over 100, including some where I got the fittings off Gix 🙂 I’m much less bothered about highsec gankers now. I want the skills to take on that Tornado that’s gate camping in Kinakka. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/395 "2022-04-02T22:54:33Z")
Silly Cilly could be killing deadspace-fit Paladins like [this](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99836785/) if she only stopped worrying about every little thing being some kind of _hidden existential threat_ and let go of her fears by going to war with the entire universe. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/396 "2022-04-02T23:38:09Z")
Due to the complexity of the mechanics involved, PvP in HiSec is the most fun for me. But I also enjoy LowSec. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/397 "2022-04-03T01:29:45Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Silly Cilly could be killing deadspace-fit Paladins like [this](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99836785/) if she only stopped worrying about every little thing being some kind of _hidden existential threat_ and let go of her fears by going to war with the entire universe. I’m doing just fine. I’d rather take longer and get loads of practice in than go galavanting off in the ( in my view false ) assumption that losing ships teaches one anything. I’m not scared of losing ships…just of losing them pointlessly. I’d have been quite happy to go to Kinakka and take on the gate campers ( who blapped 5 AO ships in one day ) even if it meant losing a ship…but nobody else in the corp wanted to go. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/398 "2022-04-03T01:31:48Z")
Occasional ship losses are completely fine when you’re otherwise getting 50 kills a week. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/399 "2022-04-03T01:41:09Z")
So I take it that encounter with the Paladin was some wardec thing…as I can’t see a 90K EHP ship being zonked by 5 ships in 0.9 space by just ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479/400 "2022-04-03T01:46:30Z")
Exactly. Wars with like two dozen of the biggest alliances in the game, plus a bunch of smaller local targets. Stuff to shoot everywhere. When you have so many targets, you get a lot of experience just from killing things. Ship losses aren’t that much of a consideration unless you decide to take underdog fights. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-you-play-in-highsec-space/330479.md?page=21)